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    Wasn't really trying to be condescending. Sorry if my bluntness came off that way.
    I'm just sugesting that you want to be a nuke, switch to the class that nukes.
    If you're upset over the fact that parties don't want nukes for dungeons, then why do you want to nuke anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Wasn't really trying to be condescending. Sorry if my bluntness came off that way.
    I'm just sugesting that you want to be a nuke, switch to the class that nukes.
    If you're upset over the fact that parties don't want nukes for dungeons, then why do you want to nuke anyway?
    I'm surprised you're even asking this but you must honestly not know so I'll explain.

    So, what is the class that nukes? Is it the class that has elemental magic and ancient magic, with all the classic Final Fantasy nukes like Blizzard and Thunder? No, well why not? Cause the dev team decides one day that it's the class with Astral/Umbral offensive spells? Do you see what I mean?

    Why do I want to nuke if parties aren't looking for nukers? Another great question. Why aren't parties looking for nukers? Could it be because of how broken the game mechanics are? Is it too much to ask for a dev team to get it right so that typical expectations set by the Final Fantasy series can hold true in this game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    I'm surprised you're even asking this but you must honestly not know so I'll explain.

    So, what is the class that nukes? Is it the class that has elemental magic and ancient magic, with all the classic Final Fantasy nukes like Blizzard and Thunder? No, well why not? Cause the dev team decides one day that it's the class with Astral/Umbral offensive spells? Do you see what I mean?

    Why do I want to nuke if parties aren't looking for nukers? Another great question. Why aren't parties looking for nukers? Could it be because of how broken the game mechanics are? Is it too much to ask for a dev team to get it right so that typical expectations set by the Final Fantasy series can hold true in this game?
    You do know THM has been the better nuker since forever right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    You do know THM has been the better nuker since forever right?
    The thing is I like the idea of casting offensive elemental magic. That's what I like about this particular videogame.. is it too much to ask for the classic Black Mage who casts offensive magic like Blizzard and Thunder? Is THM a better damage dealer by design or because of broken Ancient Magic spells? Have you thought about it?
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    I think we should have Neptune as the new developer in charge of magic use in FFXIV... all in favor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Why do I want to nuke if parties aren't looking for nukers? Another great question. Why aren't parties looking for nukers? Could it be because of how broken the game mechanics are? Is it too much to ask for a dev team to get it right so that typical expectations set by the Final Fantasy series can hold true in this game?
    You hit the nail on the head here. It isn't too much to ask for classes to be balanced so that nuking is as desirable as any other role.
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    Condescending? Don't think so...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Wasn't really trying to be condescending. Sorry if my bluntness came off that way.
    I'm just sugesting that you want to be a nuke, switch to the class that nukes.
    If you're upset over the fact that parties don't want nukes for dungeons, then why do you want to nuke anyway?
    Ahem... Neptune is well able to handle this, but allow me to point out what he has too much class to spell out FOR you. You CAN'T condescend to Neptune. Check the the relative ranks, dude...not to mention over-all quality of posts, knowledge of game and incisive intellect. I don't think you need worry about anyone thinking you're condescending to anyone, but we all have dreams, and far be it from me to disrupt yours, cupcake. May they all be sweet as can be. ^^ Sign me a fellow mid level wanna-be who only wishes to be as good as Neptune someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solfleur View Post
    Ahem... Neptune is well able to handle this, but allow me to point out what he has too much class to spell out FOR you. You CAN'T condescend to Neptune. Check the the relative ranks, dude...not to mention over-all quality of posts, knowledge of game and incisive intellect. I don't think you need worry about anyone thinking you're condescending to anyone, but we all have dreams, and far be it from me to disrupt yours, cupcake. May they all be sweet as can be. ^^ Sign me a fellow mid level wanna-be who only wishes to be as good as Neptune someday.
    LOL yea Neptune sure has some quality posts (sarcasm)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    LOL yea Neptune sure has some quality posts (sarcasm)
    Seriously... look at this. It sucks. This patch has turned class against class by subjugating one job against the will of the players. If they wanted a WHM class they should have made one from the beginning, labelled it as such, and been done with it. There are enough naive do gooders out there who get their self worth from selfless (boring, repetitive) service to the greater good and honestly believe the insults and jibes of the mallet heads are good natured ways of showing gratitude. Of course WE all know better because we've been around a while... but some people like that kind of thing. SE should have been honest from the beginning, not pulled this EPIC bait and switch on the players. I really think that's the crux of the thing. It's not really one class of players against another. It's one class of players being abused by SE. As for so blithely saying "just quit" if you don't like it...I'd be careful about that. What if the next thing they decide to change back on is the stats? What if they suddenly decide to make the little lalas all weak again--over night--with no warming and no recourse. Would you like me saying... well too bad. You should have chosen a magic job. Everyone knows little people have no business being GLAs. Most people develop empathy at around age 12. You there yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solfleur View Post
    Ahem... Neptune is well able to handle this, but allow me to point out what he has too much class to spell out FOR you. You CAN'T condescend to Neptune. Check the the relative ranks, dude...not to mention over-all quality of posts, knowledge of game and incisive intellect. I don't think you need worry about anyone thinking you're condescending to anyone, but we all have dreams, and far be it from me to disrupt yours, cupcake. May they all be sweet as can be. ^^ Sign me a fellow mid level wanna-be who only wishes to be as good as Neptune someday.
    Let me know when your done **** riding Neptune...
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