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  1. #131
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    Taija Teufelhund
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    next patch

    THM gets refresh. everyones happy
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  2. #132
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    I will say my opinion on things. If you call it whining and tell people to gtfo something is wrong. And if community likes that too - gtfo others with your opinions that re not same like ours. Well, I always thought forums are places to discuss not for insults.
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  3. #133
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    Aaros Lunos
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Synthesis View Post
    I will say my opinion on things. If you call it whining and tell people to gtfo something is wrong. And if community likes that too - gtfo others with your opinions that re not same like ours. Well, I always thought forums are places to discuss not for insults.
    There is a vast difference between being a petulant whining crybaby and actually carrying on an intelligent and civil conversation about changes. The problem is there is a small subset of the community that lacks vision, fails to see the bigger picture and either does not read dev posts or fails to comprehend them. More often than not its that subset that also acts very immaturely and consistently complains about issues that SE themselves have directly acknowledged.
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  4. #134
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    Shai Hulud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    Apparently only melee players like the mage adjustments. They seem to have something AGAINST mages, like we're supposed to be their peons that just serve them and make THEIR fun possible, without having any fun ourselves. I like the Grand Companies, but I am seriously hating EVERYTHING else they've done with this patch. I need to get a melee class to cap asap because CON/THM are freaking GARBAGE now.
    This your first MMO?

    This is my experience as healer everywhere I go. Melee think we exist to keep them alive and god-forbid we want to actually participate in the battle directly or have fun. I just keep rolling my eyes as everyone who says "cry moar mages!" is a 48 PGL or a 28 MRD. Every now and then a CON pops up saying they welcome the challenge and I respect that, I guess, but I'm thinking they haven't tried to do Great Buffalo lately.

    Hope you like standing idly on the sideline while you tag-team spam cure (the exact thing these guys think was taken away) instead of all the things you used to be able to do.
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  5. #135
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    Polyhedral Dice
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    Sargatanas
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    Not sure if I want to log in. I liked playing thm. figures...
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  6. #136
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    Aaros Lunos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    Apparently only melee players like the mage adjustments. They seem to have something AGAINST mages, like we're supposed to be their peons that just serve them and make THEIR fun possible, without having any fun ourselves. I like the Grand Companies, but I am seriously hating EVERYTHING else they've done with this patch. I need to get a melee class to cap asap because CON/THM are freaking GARBAGE now.
    See this is where you are wrong. Competent THM/CONs actually agree with this adjustment. Then again they weren't out there actively spam healing in the first place. pre 1.18 CON was a very ambiguous class that lacked a clear defined role. It has that now.
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  7. #137
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    See this is where you are wrong. Competent THM/CONs actually agree with this adjustment. Then again they weren't out there actively spam healing in the first place. pre 1.18 CON was a very ambiguous class that lacked a clear defined role. It has that now.
    I agree, the changes make me feel like I have a role and almost a job in the parties now. I not only like the changes, but I love them, the MP increase, as well as potency (damage/output) increase makes perfect since.

    I also play THM and find that I am able to still auto attack and solo mobs pretty effectively.

    For the first time in parties, and in game things seem to be moving forward. More adjustments are on their way, but this was not only a needed adjustment it was critical. I think SE nailed it, and I for one can't wait to see what else they have in store for us down the line. I just hope it doesn't take as long as 1.18 took, so here is hoping for 1.19 in August.
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  8. #138
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    I actually saw a ton of people running around Gridania and the Black Shroud today, and there were actually people at Camp Drybone, too, when I went there, and people grinding at the new beast camps as well.

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSS.

    EDIT: And Ul'dah had a shitload of people in it, too. I have yet to check the wards for each city though :P I mostly just grinded today.
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  9. #139
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    Aaros Lunos
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    I actually saw a ton of people running around Gridania and the Black Shroud today, and there were actually people at Camp Drybone, too, when I went there, and people grinding at the new beast camps as well.

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSS.

    EDIT: And Ul'dah had a shitload of people in it, too. I have yet to check the wards for each city though :P I mostly just grinded today.
    I really have to say I'm loving what they did with the beast camps. Can't what to see what is next.
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  10. #140
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    Bita's Avatar
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    J'bita Saiga
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm not coming to this thread to say anything bad about 1.18. In fact i believe it is a huge step forward for ffxiv. I did come to this thread to give my opinion and that is the title of this thread is completely ignorant. Players have the right to debate here and you can tell them to gtfo all day long but they aren't going to. I'm sick of reading all this name calling here. Plenty of people are bringing up valid arguments and points. Stop trying to combat them by calling them complainers.
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