Thread: To the Complainers... GTFO, 1.18 ROCKS!

Originally Posted by Griss

The majority of what was ushered in with .18 is just pure win. How ever the devil as always is in the details. I think they might have gone a little overboard with the mp cost increases for cures. And the enmity system still has some odditys in there. Now the second one might just our over all inexperience with the new system but we were finding it very difficult to keep hate locked down in the darkhold.

I completely agree that MP costs seem a bit steep but with proper gear/MND settings (and people ACTUALLY using exhaltation on a 10min timer?) LOL & perhaps a LITTLE adjustment in 1.19 we wont be disappointed. We cant forget that enemies have been adjusted consequently as well!

Apparently only melee players like the mage adjustments. They seem to have something AGAINST mages, like we're supposed to be their peons that just serve them and make THEIR fun possible, without having any fun ourselves. I like the Grand Companies, but I am seriously hating EVERYTHING else they've done with this patch. I need to get a melee class to cap asap because CON/THM are freaking GARBAGE now.

Originally Posted by Punainen

Apparently only melee players like the mage adjustments. They seem to have something AGAINST mages, like we're supposed to be their peons that just serve them and make THEIR fun possible, without having any fun ourselves. I like the Grand Companies, but I am seriously hating EVERYTHING else they've done with this patch. I need to get a melee class to cap asap because CON/THM are freaking GARBAGE now.

This your first MMO?

This is my experience as healer everywhere I go. Melee think we exist to keep them alive and god-forbid we want to actually participate in the battle directly or have fun. I just keep rolling my eyes as everyone who says "cry moar mages!" is a 48 PGL or a 28 MRD. Every now and then a CON pops up saying they welcome the challenge and I respect that, I guess, but I'm thinking they haven't tried to do Great Buffalo lately.

Hope you like standing idly on the sideline while you tag-team spam cure (the exact thing these guys think was taken away) instead of all the things you used to be able to do.

Originally Posted by Punainen

Apparently only melee players like the mage adjustments. They seem to have something AGAINST mages, like we're supposed to be their peons that just serve them and make THEIR fun possible, without having any fun ourselves. I like the Grand Companies, but I am seriously hating EVERYTHING else they've done with this patch. I need to get a melee class to cap asap because CON/THM are freaking GARBAGE now.

See this is where you are wrong. Competent THM/CONs actually agree with this adjustment. Then again they weren't out there actively spam healing in the first place. pre 1.18 CON was a very ambiguous class that lacked a clear defined role. It has that now.

Originally Posted by AarosLunos

See this is where you are wrong. Competent THM/CONs actually agree with this adjustment. Then again they weren't out there actively spam healing in the first place. pre 1.18 CON was a very ambiguous class that lacked a clear defined role. It has that now.

Ok, so XIV now finally have a mage class strictly for healing (White mage). They need to take away CON's nuke abilities and get rid of those masochistic ancient spells (it's just painful to cast them). Make it purely a WHITE MAGE job.

We still need a Black Mage job with capable spells!

Originally Posted by Cantaffordheals

Ok, so XIV now finally have a mage class strictly for healing (White mage). They need to take away CON's nuke abilities and get rid of those masochistic ancient spells (it's just painful to cast them). Make it purely a WHITE MAGE job.

We still need a Black Mage job with capable spells!

Well don't forget that Archanist is coming eventually. I can't see them launching the jobs system when there are unreleased classes! I think what will happen is we'll have three DoM classes, a hybrid healer, a hybrid nuker and a hybrid debuffer. SE did state that they are planning on re-organizing most abilities as part of reinforcing class uniqueness. So that could be likely. Then again CON could be the hybrid healer type class and still have elemental spells.

Originally Posted by AarosLunos

Well don't forget that Archanist is coming eventually. I can't see them launching the jobs system when there are unreleased classes! I think what will happen is we'll have three DoM classes, a hybrid healer, a hybrid nuker and a hybrid debuffer. SE did state that they are planning on re-organizing most abilities as part of reinforcing class uniqueness. So that could be likely. Then again CON could be the hybrid healer type class and still have elemental spells.

I'm pretty sure Yoshida said somewhere or another that they have no intention of implementing classes yet - that all their creative energy was going into Jobs. Now, obviously, Unangrier is an Archanist and there are plenty hanging around in Limsa Lominsa but "coming eventually" doesn't make THM suck less today. Nothing "coming eventually" has any real relevance on how little I want to play CON or THM today, does it? It just further alienates me from playing a game that I actually liked playing before this.