Arguments aren't valid just because you say they are. There's a lot of difference between debating and the petulant whining certain undesirables have enacted since the patch.I'm not coming to this thread to say anything bad about 1.18. In fact i believe it is a huge step forward for ffxiv. I did come to this thread to give my opinion and that is the title of this thread is completely ignorant. Players have the right to debate here and you can tell them to gtfo all day long but they aren't going to. I'm sick of reading all this name calling here. Plenty of people are bringing up valid arguments and points. Stop trying to combat them by calling them complainers.
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