Grinding sp (even solo) > Leves

[Gramul]

Leves are just there to break monotony and give a little reward now.

[Firon]

you are on some stuff, considering behest has a time limit of 20 minutes, and if you had 3 people rarely took longer than 12 minutes.

levinshower gave you 3k for 9 minutes? well it used to give a lot more than that. oh well whateva

Levin gave you alot of exp for spending 25+ mins on it...+ links and solo it didn't even give at least 3k... but i forgot your the same guy who likes the 11111 attack system so ill stop there lol

Also my bad i typed an 3 instead of an 2..... ill ifx that for you if it makes you happy

[Firon]

Leves are just there to break monotony and give a little reward now.

I think they are fine, faster you do them more sp you get. Like i said 3k for 9 mins of time is fine in my book

[Physic]

Levin gave you alot of exp for spending 25+ mins on it...+ links and solo it didn't even give at least 3k... but i forgot your the same guy who likes the 11111 attack system so ill stop there lol

i didnt use 111, thats what people did who didnt know how to play, at least for melee classes. levin gave more in the same time frame before. using your math as example, as long as levin gives more than 7.6 k for that time, then it was more sp before, not to mention since leves and guardian favor is finite resource, (you get the same amount per a certain time frame) you actually profited more when it lasted longer.

I had hoped the sp rewards would be higher, and offset the costs, or give you a big bonus for difficulty or time of completion, but it seems this is not the case. I would have prefered they made it so there were multiple decent paths for sp gain, 3k a leve doesnt make much of a dent in 80-100k tnls that you start to see at high levels.

[FraenirVolsung]

Maybe I'm the only one to experience this, but I did 3 leves at Camp Iron Lake last night. At Rank 47 on 3 star difficulty, the SP per kill dropped from approximately 300 per mob to less than 100 per mob, but the lowest bonus I received at the completion of a leve was 4700 SP, the highest being 5300 SP. It's conceivable I could have completed 4 star difficulty but I was still trying to get my feet wet with the new battle system. All in all, I made 19k SP on 3 leves. I'm not going to complain about that. At that pace it would take me about 15 leves to go from Rank 47 to Rank 48. The best thing is that even the leves that used to not even be worth doing at Iron Lake gave very similar SP rewards at completion to the leves that used to yield the highest SP, like Great Hoary Toads. I can't speak for everyone's experience with leve SP, but I am more than pleased with the adjustments.

[Zkieve]

i didnt use 111, thats what people did who didnt know how to play, at least for melee classes. levin gave more in the same time frame before. using your math as example, as long as levin gives more than 7.6 k for that time, then it was more sp before, not to mention since leves and guardian favor is finite resource, (you get the same amount per a certain time frame) you actually profited more when it lasted longer.

I had hoped the sp rewards would be higher, and offset the costs, or give you a big bonus for difficulty or time of completion, but it seems this is not the case. I would have prefered they made it so there were multiple decent paths for sp gain, 3k a leve doesnt make much of a dent in 80-100k tnls that you start to see at high levels.

actually , i got around 40ish k (actually i got more but not sure exactly how much were from leves) seems about right w-o comparing it to leve link repeat .

Was geting 5-6ish k per level at lv 46 mrd on 4 stars lv 40 leves.

my bggest complain is that , like i said on a diferent thread that
went from ----

--Do leves that have more mobs .
to
--Do leves that can be done in few minutes w-o effort.

Since reward = stars and fast completion.

[Physic]

actually , i got around 40ish k (actually i got more but not sure exactly how much were from leves) seems about right w-o comparing it to leve link repeat .

Was geting 5-6ish k per level at lv 46 mrd on 4 stars lv 40 leves.

my bggest complain is that , like i said on a diferent thread that
went from ----

--Do leves that have more mobs .
to
--Do leves that can be done in few minutes w-o effort.

Since reward = stars and fast completion.

interesting, ill have to test them more.

[DAOWAce]

Can't say I grinded before, but now the skill gains of levequests just dropped incredibly, so did the difficulty.

I completed a 4 star level 20 levequest as a level 19 lancer and was not gaining more than 400 skill experience per kill. Previously, if I did something that wild (which was hard as hell mind you), I'd get about 2k skill exp.

Crafting levequests? Yay, free materials for normal experience gains..

Did I mention they're still on the same 48 hour reset timer despite the massive reductions in, well, everything to them?

What does Guardian's Aspect do again? I haven't not used it, so if it still buffs skill gains, then, well, I can't imagine how low it'd be without it.

Couple this with the fact that we now have to run around to all 3 cities to get proper levequests if we want guild marks.. and yeah, levequests seem to be only for guild marks now, not for gaining experience.

I don't grind, I stopped doing behests when they nerfed the party size (they didn't even add auto-joining of parties this patch), and now the main form of leveling for me has just been destroyed.

Can we get the old team back? At least they weren't trying to make FFXIV like FFXI. (which I did enjoy for 2 years when I was a young teen mind you, but times change.)

[Verecund]

They kind've killed leves when they reduced the rewards IMO. Leves weren't really a great leveling system to begin with, but now there's not really much reason to bother doing them unless you need guildmarks.

[Jaide]

I don't know, I did 6 R40 leves in Gridania last night and got about ~5k and the end of each one on 5 star. That's 30k SP, and at rank 48 it was 30% of my level, plus I still have two more I can do at another nation. I don't feel that's too bad for something you do casually every day and a half between other content. Some of you guys are just so used to fail grinding the same leves over and over again and spoiled by the insane SP rewards that you don't know what else to do.