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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Nailen, I understand what you want with enticing people to wolves den, but it needs to not involve frontlines. It needs to be an incentive within wolves den itself.

    For the vast majority of people wanting objective based pvp, we would rather gnaw our foot off than do arena....FOR ANY REASON. Seriously, they could give me a golden chocobo that shit novus weapons on Sundays and I would rather poke my eye out than do arena. Morale gear not working and giving everyone base morale does the exact same thing just in opposite ways, and neither will force people into doing arena if they don't want too.
    Again (I'm so tired of this...), I'm not suggesting you HAVE to do Wolves' Den. I appreciate that it might be hard to follow, because my opinion has evolved over time as a result of these discussions (well, if you can call half the posters just resorting to insults "discussions").

    If you want to only do Frontlines, only do Frontlines. It still rewards you with Rank EXP and Wolf Marks, you can still progress only doing Frontlines (again, with Morale adjusted to play less of a drastic impact).
    If self mutilation isn't your thing, and you wouldn't mind doing Wolves' Den, you do Wolves' Den to speed up the progression. Wolves' Den matches take less time, after all.

    I am not suggesting making Frontlines a carrot on a string that forces people into Wolves' Den. I'm suggesting making Morale a carrot on a string that can entice people into Wolves' Den if they don't loath the arena. You can see the difference, right?
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-17-2014 at 06:05 AM.

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    Pibz's Avatar
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    Cat Man
    World
    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Even if wolves den would be 200% faster to acquire it, I doubt many who wouldn't already do arena would do it is my point. If someone is going to do arena they will give it a shot and like it or not. Having leaderboards and seasons and special wolves den only gear would and should be the solution to help get people playing it....not worrying about getting people to suffer through cause they can get gear faster to use elsewhere. Both types of pvp need separate rewards I think, to foster populations in both.
    Couldn't have said it better. Wolve's den should be based around competitive ladder instead of being some place to gear up.
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