Quote Originally Posted by Shake0615 View Post
The fact of the matter is that we will always be at an impasse with the PvE players because the majority of them feel that (to quote another poster) "FFXIV is a PvE game." Therefore most of them just consider PvP a diversion and they want to be able to freely come and go without consequence or disadvantage. But they don't want to grind the Wolves' Den for an advantage in PvP and damn it they don't want anyone else to have an advantage over them! Their Not a single one of them would claim that PvE should be "equal footing."
So, in your eyes, a true PvP ultimate goal shouldn't be about getting better at it but about getting gear, yeah that's some true PvP mindset.
PvP Should always ideally be about skill foremost and only very slight advantages based on progression.
Also, i'm tired of saying this Wolve's Den was never meant as a way to gear up for Frontlines.


Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
Skill is all that should matter in pvp. Why do you need a pvp stat when it normalizes between two equally geared pvp players? As I said in the other thread, pvp stats are pointless. It's just there so people can go "lol I one shot the newb." It has no other purpose.
This. Again true PvP advantage should come from your skill in playing your class and your tactic/strategic skill everything else should be completely secondary to those. Any argument made in favor of gear being a major asset comparable to skill can only be viewed as ,as the quote above says basically, "Let me farm gear, so i can pwn those that don't have it".
Finally the only purpose gear should have is allowing people to create their own builds, with which iLvL sync does not interfere at all.