Protesting Frontlines

[rappa]

I see frontlines as Alterac Valley in wow. Pve players trying to fight in paths without an objetive, just using an aoe spell or range attack. Other players afk in a pos.
And pvp players trying to conquest enemies pos or following another players looking for a diversion

[Rawk]

The only reason hardcore players want morale stat to count in Frontlines is so they can steamroll new players and casuals without trying

Yeah it has nothing to do with MONTHS worth of effort to obtain the gear. Re-read some of the beginning discussions in this thread. Alot of us do not care nearly as much that morale is being thrown away, but because it makes PvP gear that we earned through alot of effort LESS THAN that of pve gear (due to missing stat). Although I do want the advantage because I earned my pvp gear, I don't want to just facestomp people without trying. The truth is, we're gonna facestomp new people anyway because our knowledge and reaction timings of pvp abilities plus the small nuances that we will avoid (such as double sleep). I just don't like the slap in the face to my grind for gear.

[Spot]

Yeah it has nothing to do with MONTHS worth of effort to obtain the gear. Re-read some of the beginning discussions in this thread. Alot of us do not care nearly as much that morale is being thrown away, but because it makes PvP gear that we earned through alot of effort LESS THAN that of pve gear (due to missing stat). Although I do want the advantage because I earned my pvp gear, I don't want to just facestomp people without trying. The truth is, we're gonna facestomp new people anyway because our knowledge and reaction timings of pvp abilities plus the small nuances that we will avoid (such as double sleep). I just don't like the slap in the face to my grind for gear.

SAY WHAT? New MMO content that previous content gear isn't top tier in! No way! No one saw that coming! (There will undoubtedly be some sort of gear specialized for it that you're going to have to work for.)

[Rawk]

There's no mention of new gear. They're just ilvl syncing and removing morale so pvp gear has no place in pvp. How dare I make such an absurd assumption!

It's also not so much pvp gear isn't top tier even, its worse than pve counterpart. Surely you can see how that's a slap in the face to the massive grind-gate that pvp gear was behind.

[TriksteR]

There's no mention of new gear.

There will be a new mmount! isn't it awesome?

OffT: Is that horse a PvP only mount or we will be able to use it anywhere?

[Spot]

There's no mention of new gear. They're just ilvl syncing and removing morale so pvp gear has no place in pvp. How dare I make such an absurd assumption!

It's also not so much pvp gear isn't top tier even, its worse than pve counterpart. Surely you can see how that's a slap in the face to the massive grind-gate that pvp gear was behind.

There is no mention of a lot of things. Only patch day will tell. Until then, I suppose we can all enjoy the people getting their panties in a bunch over it.

[Akira340stx]

I for one am sick of tired of SE always sticking it to veteran players just because they want to Appeal to newcomers. Ive been playing since 1.0. SO I've seen gear, maps,characters achievements, wiped away just so these guys get there Act together. Now your telling me as a legitimate PVP player in ARR, someone who doesnt WT, who grinded in the Arena for Months just to get high Level PVP gear, spent tons of gil on mats,now you're saying that we will not be able to Use Morale in Frontlines? Really? You guys owe me some time then, and some money quite frankly. Will those players who grinded for PVP gear get to turn it in for a reWARd at least? This is a legitimate question
Don't forget that we PAY for this service.
Don't you like the money you're making, removing morale from frontlines is a breech of contract if you ask me.you guys lied.
Removing Morale from Frontlines is a mistake

[Ragecake]

Removing Morale from Frontlines is a mistake

I'm pretty sure SE is going to add a Frontlines mode in the future where morale/materia works. Cut the hutt burt. :P

[Dimitrii]

I'm pretty sure SE is going to add a Frontlines mode in the future where morale/materia works. Cut the hutt burt. :P

I really hope they do this just so that I can get a laugh at the PvP people that will still have a problem with it but wont really be able to voice it unless they wanna risk exposing their ulterior motives. If they do this it would theoretically solve the problem but im pretty sure 99% of the pvp guys complaining about this care more about keeping their distinct and overwhelming advantage against noobs than they are about being able to use their gear. And since doing something like this will mean that the noobs will just all queue for the gear restricted frontlines, thus taking away their free wins, im pretty sure they will remain unhappy. Afterall they will just end up fighting ppl that are similarly geared to them anyway thus nullifying their advantage.

[Dimitrii]

PvP guys need to at least man up to your real motives, no one is gonna believe this bs about you only caring about ur gear remaining relevant when the whole game pretty much revolves around new patches obsoleting the previous patches gear. This aint even a valid reason anyway cause last i checked the pvp gear still worked in the wolves den. The whole pvp gear thing shouldnt exist to begin with anyway. PvP is supposed to be a way to distinguish the caliber between players. How can you legitimately do that when you are handicapping people? How many times can you two shot people wearing af gear while ur wearing ur ilvl 100 pvp set before you get bored anyway?