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    Quote Originally Posted by Geracia2 View Post
    to add variety.
    you might have forgotten that they have access to more information than you. statistics on GC preferences, activity with seal accumulation and what not. If they have the data on the average stats and completion rate of those attempting coil1/2, prettry sure they have a more informed perspective on how to introduce something like Frontlines.
    XI had a similar thing with their PvP. City-states determined your team and each team played for control of a zone.

    TL;DR - dev understand of the game > your understanding
    To be fair, this is the same team that said less than 100 people would beat T5 before it was nerfed, and we see how that turned out. They also got wrong how many subscriptions would be around at the beginning (not that this is a bad thing). I could understand there being skepticism on their understanding.
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    Sorry for quoting back a day but I couldn't let this slide.
    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    To be fair, this is the same team that said less than 100 people would beat T5 before it was nerfed, and we see how that turned out. They also got wrong how many subscriptions would be around at the beginning (not that this is a bad thing). I could understand there being skepticism on their understanding.
    Lets not re-write game history so quickly. They were correct. 8 People beat T5 before it was nerfed. T5 wasn't cleared for a long time and people were insisting some of the mechanics were simply broken. The devs left the content at the very hard setting untill BluGarter cleared it the first time. After they cleared it a patch was released along-side a post from YoshiP where they made it easier. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113486 It's only been 8 months, lets not start making silly strawman arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraphimXI View Post
    Sorry for quoting back a day but I couldn't let this slide.

    Lets not re-write game history so quickly. They were correct. 8 People beat T5 before it was nerfed. T5 wasn't cleared for a long time and people were insisting some of the mechanics were simply broken. The devs left the content at the very hard setting untill BluGarter cleared it the first time. After they cleared it a patch was released along-side a post from YoshiP where they made it easier. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113486 It's only been 8 months, lets not start making silly strawman arguments.
    I'm not making strawman arguments. Yes, people were working on T5 for a while. They fixed bugs, which I don't consider nerf. You could certainly argue the twisters were a nerf, and I would probably concede that. However, once you know something can be killed legitimately, then it just becomes a matter of execution. We'll never know if more people would have cleared it before that patch because the time between BG's kill and the patch happened relatively quickly. I would be more than happy to discuss this further, but this isn't the forum for that since we've gotten off topic from this thread.
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