Protesting Frontlines

[Shake0615]

Actually the same is entirely 100% true for pve as well. Once we get a level cap raise, we will be ilvl capped doing all current content. All new content is steared towards gaining new gear too. If coil 3 mobs were tuned to be fought in AF gear more power to it, bring it on, but it will be tuned for current gear, TO MAKE IT FAIR.

If we didnt have allagan and high allagan gear you would doing new coil in Darklight and the mobs would destroy you.....JUST like how an uber geared PVP player can kill a new PVP player. See the similarities there?

By making things fair it makes it more fun for a lot of the player base.

That's precisely why a matchmaking system exists - to pair people of similar rank and presumably item level and skill. In PvE, encounters scale based on the assumption that people who have a higher item level will be able to keep up with the higher demands of the fight. Matchmaking works similarly in that the system tries to pair people who are on equal footing. I realize in the context of Frontlines that matchmaking like the Wolves' Den won't work efficiently, but I do not defend the decision to remove Morale from the equation entirely because it eliminates all utility of PvP gear. Without Morale, the Direwolf Robe of Healing (PvP Rank 30) is inferior to the Cashmere Robe of Healing (PvE i90) because the latter has a Determination bonus and the former has a broken stat. That's just absurd.

However, please don't make the mistake of assuming that I'm defending a system that allows i100 players to one-shot others. Not at all! I've gotten slammed by enough high rank, high item level parties in my time. I just feel that if Morale is to be phased out of large scale encounters then there MUST be a replacement stat on the PvP gear that makes it useful in Frontlines (or maybe a set bonus?). Otherwise, a player like myself who hasn't even tried the new Coil Turns for lack of interest will be compelled to complete PvE content that I don't want to in order to play the PvP content that I do. At the moment that isn't a problem because Frontlines will be synced to 80, but in the future that will change.

Hell, I would be content if they allowed us to progress equally through PvP as well as PvE - that would eliminate barriers for both parties. Let's say the Swansgrace Cane didn't come with a huge morale bonus but instead had the same stats as High Allagan Crook. Same gear, different ways of achieving it. That way everyone's happy and no one is left behind due to a gear gap.

[Epistane]

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This is EXACTLY how I feel.

And Tandy, it's not about one shotting people. I'm COMPLETELY for skill and balance. But it isn't balance when PvP gear will only have 3 stats. A bunch of us BUSTED our asses PvPing for the pvp gear and have been pvping for months. Have been at it since day one of Wolves' Den release.

All of a sudden we're told that we'll be missing a fourth stat and that we HAVE to PvE just to pvp? Lol? It's a huge kick in the balls. Since glamour dosen't work in wolves den, there might be a chance it doesn't work in Frontlines either. So now what good is PvP gear?

IMO, they should do this.
Allow melds to only work on PvP gear, that way PvP gear still has a use AND it helps with the fourth missing stat problem

BOOM PROBLEM SOLVED.

but what's the point in PvP gear existing if it's made not only irrelevant, but actually WORSE than PvE gear due to a missing secondary stat?

^^^^^ This x1000000


And to the people saying "PvP for fun"........
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Fuck yeah I PvP for fun. I play games for fun. BUT I DON'T play MMOs to sit in fucking queue for 30+ mins (aka wolves den queue) and to look at 7/8 7/8 7/8 7/8 7/8 all day

[ish007xx]

This thread lol, if this was SE plan all along then why the hell even design and put in pvp gear. I spend all this time and gill investing in my pvp gear for frontlines to be like this, if it really turns out to be no morale in frontlines it'll be a slap in the face for players like myself who did this grind to stay in arena so our gear could see its full potential there. BS i say, i'll still play frontlines but the lvl of play i was expecting to be playing going be dumbed down just to cater to these newbies. Such a let down this will be SE plz dont let this frontlines be like this plzzzzz.....