Protesting Frontlines

[rappa]

I wrote this in reddit thread.

My stats as brd in pve ilvl 104 gear is:
crit 516, 262 det, skill speed 442, 550 dex and 420 vit.

My stats as brd in pvp ilvl100 gear if i geared that:
crit 420, 276 det, skill speed 436, 530 dex and 412 vit.

I am talking i lose 96 crit, 6 skill speed, 30 dex points, 8 vit. Oh i get 14 det points more.

With synchr the difference would be reduced but still it is. So where is the balance now?

[Tandy]

I wrote this in reddit thread.



With synchr the difference would be reduced but still it is. So where is the balance now?

Balance means everyone is treated the same. It would be inbalanced if you were synced and I wasnt. If we both are set to ilvl 80 thats balance. Every bard would be treated the same, and have the same stats across the board.

Now it might be unfair in your eyes to not let you have the stats you have on your gear beyond ilvl 80, and thats a fair opinion. But its just as unfair for everyone else too.

[rappa]

The only thing, synchr will be fine is all players inside frontline have the same stats.

A healer(ilvl 100) and a healer (ilvl 70), both with 5000 hp.

Same hp, same det, same crit, all stats are the same. That is balance. Only pvp abilities and personal skill marks the difference.

As i said, me wearing pvp gear are losing stats, no bother if i am synchronized or not because pvp gear has a 4th stat which is useless in frontline scenary.

Do you need numbers?

Weathered Auroral Tabard ilvl 100
Dex +34
Vit +39
crit + 38
Det + 19

Birdsong Coat ilvl 100
Dex +34
Vit + 39
Skill speed + 38
Morale 41

OK stats are not the same, but is balanced. Let's remove Morale from Pvp gear and what do you get? Nothing, you have a gear useless.

Let's synchr. We reduce 5/10 points each stat, nothing change because all player suffer it. But you, wearing that pvp gear which take long time to earn doesn't work because you are losing the 4th stat.

[Tandy]

Let's remove Morale from Pvp gear and what do you get? Nothing, you have a gear useless.

Let's synchr. We reduce 5/10 points each stat, nothing change because all player suffer it. But you, wearing that pvp gear which take long time to earn doesn't work because you are losing the 4th stat.

But that would be why you dont wear the wolves den gear in frontlines. If you know it will be missing a 4th stat, wear the PVE gear like everyone else? If you like the look, glamours are all you need.

[rappa]

Why may i use PVE gear in a pvp scenary?

I am raiding as bard and i do pvp as marauder, i haven't pve gear in marauder job.
May i spend soldier tomestone to buy a pve gear which i will not use in a high end encounter?
May i start to loot high allagan gear over my partners?
Why i am force to do pve to play pvp?
Why may i change my pvp job for another?

It's ridiculous.

[Tandy]

Why may i use PVE gear in a pvp scenary?

I am raiding as bard and i do pvp as marauder, i haven't pve gear in marauder job.
May i spend soldier tomestone to buy a pve gear which i will not use in a high end encounter?
May i start to loot high allagan gear over my partners?
Why i am force to do pve to play pvp?
Why may i change my pvp job for another?

It's ridiculous.

Its capped at ilvl 80. You can get gear from running roulettes as a bard that will be more than enough. No need to spend tomes or coil looting on it at all. Why get ilvl 100 gear when its all capped lower anyway?

[rappa]

Its capped at ilvl 80. You can get gear from running roulettes as a bard that will be more than enough. No need to spend tomes or coil looting on it at all. Why get ilvl 100 gear when its all capped lower anyway?

It's the same shit, you are forced to do pve to play pvp.
A fresh lvl 50, toward just pvp. He must choose play pvp or play pve to wear ilvl 80 gear.

Atm, you can choose the pvp path because you login, queue pvp match, earn seals and get gear. You don't need to go to brayflox, halatali or other dungeons.

At 2.3, the pvp player is forced to go dungeons, earn myth and buy new gear, because all time he spent playing pvp is throw away in the exactly moment he enter in frontline match.

As i said and repeat, PVP gear is useless in a pvp environment. Fuck logic.