Protesting Frontlines

[Tandy]

Need petition to do same ilvl80 sync in primal and all new content pve, third coil will only drop a mount in final turn
SE is a badass mmo dev... Several month of pvp hard grinding and now you get f*****

Players being synced against monsters already happens, when you go into lower level instances. Players being synched against players is a totally different thing. Its not really comparable.

There could be good reasons for it too, maybe we get great titles and cosmetic gear in frontlines? Or abilities that make it faster to claim objectiveness, rez with more hp or resist status effects? We wont know till its out. It can be balanced on ilvl 80 and have lots of progression in it.

[Jon_00]

If you want to show off and be the best, do the arena style PvP that's already there. I tried PvP and got stomped on. I've no idea whether or not I lacked skill or gear, I just died constantly.

Frontlines however appears to level the playing field which sounds good to me!

[Kumo]

I dont know what to say about this other than pvp feels REALLY limited witht eh current 4v4 restrictions I mean how many players even pick a PvE tank class with the aim to do PvP?

And now I read that morale is going to be useless in frontlines?

Morale actually balances the PvP considerably because the damage from full raiding gear is considerably higher than that of a player with morale to lower thier damage and allow them to compete.

Essentially you remove morale and PvE gear becomes the main thing, which is really bad design, I don't want to fight in morale gear level 70-100 vs a PvE player with 110+ gear.

[Akira340stx]

I for one am sick of tired of SE always sticking it to veteran players just because they want to Appeal to newcomers. Ive been playing since 1.0. SO I've seen gear, maps,characters achievements, wiped away just so these guys get there Act together. Now your telling me as a legitimate PVP player in ARR, someone who doesnt WT, who grinded in the Arena for Months just to get high Level PVP gear, spent tons of gil on mats,now you're saying that we will not be able to Use Morale in Frontlines? Really? You guys owe me some time then, and some money quite frankly. Will those players who grinded for PVP gear get to turn it in for a reWARd at least? This is a legitimate question
Don't forget that we PAY for this service.
Don't you like the money you're making, removing morale from frontlines is a breech of contract if you ask me.you guys lied.
Removing Morale from Frontlines is a mistake

[Ragecake]

Removing Morale from Frontlines is a mistake

I'm pretty sure SE is going to add a Frontlines mode in the future where morale/materia works. Cut the hutt burt. :P

[Dimitrii]

I'm pretty sure SE is going to add a Frontlines mode in the future where morale/materia works. Cut the hutt burt. :P

I really hope they do this just so that I can get a laugh at the PvP people that will still have a problem with it but wont really be able to voice it unless they wanna risk exposing their ulterior motives. If they do this it would theoretically solve the problem but im pretty sure 99% of the pvp guys complaining about this care more about keeping their distinct and overwhelming advantage against noobs than they are about being able to use their gear. And since doing something like this will mean that the noobs will just all queue for the gear restricted frontlines, thus taking away their free wins, im pretty sure they will remain unhappy. Afterall they will just end up fighting ppl that are similarly geared to them anyway thus nullifying their advantage.

[Dimitrii]

PvP guys need to at least man up to your real motives, no one is gonna believe this bs about you only caring about ur gear remaining relevant when the whole game pretty much revolves around new patches obsoleting the previous patches gear. This aint even a valid reason anyway cause last i checked the pvp gear still worked in the wolves den. The whole pvp gear thing shouldnt exist to begin with anyway. PvP is supposed to be a way to distinguish the caliber between players. How can you legitimately do that when you are handicapping people? How many times can you two shot people wearing af gear while ur wearing ur ilvl 100 pvp set before you get bored anyway?

[Fayie]

Not this crap again.... Okay. Do you know how many people have organized themselves in both ranks and Grand Companies? Would you really... REALLY want the headache of being rank-whatever going up against a near alliance of rank 40's with no sync and full morale?

Guys, get real... This is the easiest way to integrate an already complex system for full fairness (and remember, this is supposed to HELP people get into PvP, not push them out), and once it has been released for a while then they probably WILL add a no-sync Frontlines. Just because it isn't here now doesn't mean it never will be. You all just need to grow up.

[Munglewood]

I came here to post the same type of thread.
Why not sync all pve gear to 80 too?

/signed

[Mapleine]

I prefer it. I "protested" the arena mode, now they actually have a design that suits this game and this genre.

Been doing PvP in MMOs for a decade, got Gladiator during WoW Season 2. Honestly, I'm really fed up of turbo grinds and serious business dictating MMO PvP. Rewards should be vanity and incentive and thats what they essentially are now. MMO PvP is a mini game, its never balanced or turned properly and it shouldn't be treated like a min-max venue or designed around. I want to use it to relax from PvE or for some variety because that's what it's there for.

If you want a hardcore focus in a setup of this nature play a MOBA, stop trying to outgrind people and bowl them over in a mini game because thats all PvP gear has ever been in MMOs since its inception. Trust me, I abused it plenty. Used to go into BGs on a decked out Druid/Warrior combo in TBC and destroy the entire PUG team.