apparently real PvP is playing dress up and having an obscene gear advantage that lets you steamroll new players without even trying. Sorry but no, thats the problem with PvP in these themepark MMOs, the constant gear treadmill and if you dont gear up first you will just lose match after match after match and not stand a chance. Oh yeah thats real fun and engaging gameplay right there. Real PvPers PvP for the sake of killing someone else and having bragging rights, not to grind tokens for those new pants with higher stats.