Disable spiritbonding in dungeons.

[Darki]

Yes, gear is part of "the player strategy". What you are saying, though, is that you insist everyone follow YOUR strategy. "WE totally need +GP ...".

How selfish.

My strategy is to use dungeons to: Earn Myth and Soldiery to gear my jobs, use the Myth and the Expert Roulette to earn Alexandrite to update my relic, SB crafting gear to sell and use the proceeds to purchase materia needed for the Relic update in a much more efficient manner than SB'ing DPS gear (conversion success into something that you can actually use is too low IMO).

You don't like it? You are free to make your own "No SB'ing" parties through the PF. Most everyone else (including the entire party that commended my last Brayflox run) seems to be fine with players that can perform appropriate to the content.

Not too long ago I took part in a debate about watching CSs during a main story duty. That topic eventually ended with a quote from the game developers (See my signature.)

My personal opinion is that unlike a CS watcher, a player with weak armor is at least functioning in the party. If the party becomes too taxed from a player or players SBing and thus results in a wipe, that is when I believe it's time to put the good equipment back on.

[Zhi]

No you don't, stop it or I shall have you horsewhipped

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someone help im not sure if i can do math

[Hiruke]

Greetings,

While an item level requirement has been set up in order to participate in high level content, the gear used is up to the players. As such, we do not have any plans to implement limitations to the system that prevent equipment to be worn for spiritbonding.

In the event we were to specifically decide the stats and item level per equipment slot for dungeons, it would take away the freedom of what you can wear since it will be limited to only specific pieces.

Equipment choice is an important element for content strategy, and while there are aspects that rely on the responsibility of players themselves, we’d like you to communicate with each other to make decisions based on the situation.

Wearing crafting gear isn't really a "content strategy".

The real problem is that the materia system for FFXIV doesn't belong in an MMO to begin with. It's a really poor design choice. You're literally asking players to wear junk gear to all sorts of content so they can destroy it and turn it into materia. It's super tedious, so of course if people are going to do it, they're going to do it ALL THE TIME. Because it takes forever to get the materia you want, since you have to kill a lot of mobs to blow up each piece of gear, and which materia you get is random. And then since most people don't want to do this super tedious task, people will continue doing it all the time, in dungeons, everywhere, to sell the materia to people.

It's a seriously flawed idea to wear subpar gear, or to provide incentive to do so. The goal of an MMO should be to get the players to acquire and equip the very best gear and perform their best, not give them an incentive to use trash gear. Seriously.

[Giantbane]

It's a seriously flawed idea to wear subpar gear, or to provide incentive to do so. The goal of an MMO should be to get the players to acquire and equip the very best gear and perform their best, not give them an incentive to use trash gear. Seriously.

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[Brine_Gildchaff]

It's a seriously flawed idea to wear subpar gear, or to provide incentive to do so. The goal of an MMO should be to get the players to acquire and equip the very best gear and perform their best, not give them an incentive to use trash gear. Seriously.

You mean like the penta-melded i90 gear that comprised the majority of the gear Blue Gartr used for their world-first clear of Turn 9? Or the penta-melded i70 gear they used to take down Twintania before Twister nerf?

[Volsung]

@OP

I wear only x2 HQ crafting rings to SB in my duty finder runs, while I wait for queue to pop I farm mobs the normal way to SB it.

I've never come across any problems with it as I have more than enough gear and damage from my other items (mostly all High Allagan+110 weapon, jewels) to not be even remotely noticed. I'm also always the highest damage in my group so no one complains.

This topic again falls into the "You can't tell other paying customers how to play/what to wear" category.

Idk for me, I've run into players that have switched into "full SB sets" from head to toe. And
sometimes crafting gear, to where there is not a bonus at all to damage/heals/hp. I dont mind spiritbinding
at all. But when some people gimp themselves that far intentionally.... it hurts the group.

[Ooshima]

What constitute being being appropriate gear?

For an example right now if I stripped off all 5 of my accessories I still have 478 DEX - which is equivalent of i83 in all aiming gear (i90 and i70 mix), but I still have 63 VIT higher than the said i90-i70 mix, which translates to 913HP higher.

Is i83 adequate enough? It is even enough for T5 which entry requirement is i82. In this case, am I "allowed" to wear SB accessories?

My primary stats could be even higher - to i86 equivalant of all aiming gears once I upgrade my Rosenbogen to High Allagan Composite Bow and my pants from Weathered Auroral Brais to High Allagan Breeches of Aiming. Which is really well enough for all existing content outside Coil 2. But I'm sure someone will bitch about me in SB gear on the right hand side nonetheless.

Anyone to answer this? Can I SB?

Continuing to use the Black Mage as the example... how is the i100/110 Black Mage supposed to control their Hate, when even a single Scathe (their weakest DPS spell) will put them straight into the Orange category of Hate while in a party with an i50/AF geared Tank?

Are you a i100/110 black mage? One single Scathe brings it to orange you must be exaggerating things.

I have been paired with AF tanks in Main Scenario before (I am i108). Just let them have a few seconds lead in building hate before starting your attacks. For high burst DPS such as BRD/BLM, you have a thing called Quelling Strikes.

[Bloodmoon]

It's not against the rules to SB in a DF party. That being said, considering there are three people other than your all important little self who are participating in a disciple of war and magic only activity, could it be possible that if you are in any way hindering the objective of that party by purposefully gimping your output in order to serve a very selfish need, you are maybe being a little bit of a dick? It's pretty stupid that DOW and DOM can even equip that gear or that items that yield exclusively DOH or DOL materia can be advanced through battle. It may be a conscious decision to allow it, but come on, whether you want to argue the point just because it's an easy way for you to get what you want, you know it's a cop out. If you are going to do something completely selfish, go do it by yourself.

[Leigaon]

I constantly see people asking in PF for i93-i94, then you see the host and his buddy go with i50 crafted accessories to spiritbond. That's just completely unacceptable. Also, I seriously don't understand people.

They shouldn't be doing that requesting ilv90's - 100 while wearing such gear. Setting the requirements and not meeting them yourself is something that's getting common..say "3 wipes and you're out" then you see that guys the first to die!!

Roulette wise, that's a different story but a pre-made set up that they request you to be great so they can breeze through...isn't. I know double sided but..oh well.

[Giantbane]

You mean like the penta-melded i90 gear that comprised the majority of the gear Blue Gartr used for their world-first clear of Turn 9? Or the penta-melded i70 gear they used to take down Twintania before Twister nerf?

Pretty sure he's talking about wearing crappy gear to spiritbond and then convert into some random materia (half of which are completely useless and are only fodder for exchanging for a chance to get non-garbage materia). That part just doesn't have any place in a modern game. Particularly a cooperative game (like an MMO).

Using melded gear, as you've stated, is pretty useful. Although I don't like the extreme randomness with some of the advanced melding ... but that's another matter.