Disable spiritbonding in dungeons.

[Gallus]

It's ridiculous, I don't care if people want to gimp themselves when they are playing solo, but when you are in a group doing a speedrun, you aren't supposed to be wearing i50 accessories wth? I constantly see people asking in PF for i93-i94, then you see the host and his buddy go with i50 crafted accessories to spiritbond. That's just completely unacceptable. Also, I seriously don't understand people, you spend hours, days, weeks wiping over and over and over again in SCoB, week after week, until you manage to clear...and after 3 months, when you are finally full high allagan, instead, you permanently wear this i50 crafted accessories that gimp yourself at ridiculous levels. That's like earning money for 10 years for a Ferrari F50 and when you buy it, you don't use it, instead, you drive your Seat Ibiza because it consumes less fuel.

[IzumiRaito]

If its a pf group for an "elite" speedrun and u see someone trying to spirtibond, u tell them to stop immediately, or else u either kick them or leave if ur not the leader.

[Arrius]

I constantly see people asking in PF for i93-i94, then you see the host and his buddy go with i50 crafted accessories to spiritbond. That's just completely unacceptable.

When you don't like it, you don't need to join. Their party, their rules. Comply or open up one yourself.

[Ooshima]

Just because you don't SB you want to disable others from SBing? If it's not some extreme fast paced BFSR but some normal instance, why not?

Take a chill pill and stop complaining about everything not important lol.

[Tharian]

Just because you don't SB you want to disable others from SBing? If it's not some extreme fast paced BFSR but some normal instance, why not?

Take a chill pill and stop complaining about everything not important lol.

The complaint was that it WAS a Brayflox Speed Run, or alternatively a Second Coil run. In both instances it would be fairly unreasonable to go into those dungeons with Item Level 50 gear under most circumstances. I know that as a healer myself I rather abhor people who go into dungeons under geared.

Also consider this scenario: a Tank comes into a dungeon sporting mostly item level 50 gear, and a Black Mage (or other DPS) joins the party sporting item level 100 to 110 gear... who do you think is going to end up fulfilling the role of the Tank in that party? It won't be the Paladin or the Warrior that is for sure.

[Ooshima]

The complaint was that it WAS a Brayflox Speed Run, or alternatively a Second Coil run. In both instances it would be fairly unreasonable to go into those dungeons with Item Level 50 gear under most circumstances. I know that as a healer myself I rather abhor people who go into dungeons under geared.
Also consider this scenario: a Tank comes into a dungeon sporting mostly item level 50 gear, and a Black Mage (or other DPS) joins the party sporting item level 100 to 110 gear... who do you think is going to end up fulfilling the role of the Tank in that party? It won't be the Paladin or the Warrior that is for sure.

Yes the complaint was about a SR. But because of that he is calling for banning of SB in all dungeons, which is dumb. Which is why in the quoted text you have quoted me, I said: "If it's not some extreme fast paced BFSR but some normal instance, why not?"

Also consider this scenario (which happened to me earlier tonight) a Tank comes into a dungeon sporting mostly item level 50 gear, and a Black Mage (or other DPS) joins the party sporting item level 100 to 110 gear... who do you think is going to end up fulfilling the role of the Tank in that party? It won't be the Paladin or the Warrior that is for sure.

Well you have to see if the tank is genuinely in i50/AF gear. If it is genuinely a new 50 tank then I guess there is no choice but for the i100/110 DPS to control their hate a little. But if the tank is not new tank and does have the appropriate gears, then he should understand that he might need to change back, or at least change back some of it to have enough STR to generate enough hate to tank properly. This I agree.

[Tharian]

Well you have to see if the tank is genuinely in i50/AF gear. If it is genuinely a new 50 tank then I guess there is no choice but for the i100/110 DPS to control their hate a little. But if the tank is not new tank and does have the appropriate gears, then he should understand that he might need to change back, or at least change back some of it to have enough STR to generate enough hate to tank properly. This I agree.

Continuing to use the Black Mage as the example... how is the i100/110 Black Mage supposed to control their Hate, when even a single Scathe (their weakest DPS spell) will put them straight into the Orange category of Hate while in a party with an i50/AF geared Tank?

[Lumidus]

"sorry, you shouldn't be SBing during our speed runs" /leave

[Welsper59]

You know, to be honest, I've been trying to test the SB route in groups lately (CT and 4man dungeons)... and I have to say, it's kinda crappy. I SB way faster solo, even moreso if I group up in the open world. Unless you're trying to SB i70+ gear in CT and maybe parts of coil, there's no honestly good reason to rely on groups to bind.

[LadyVaJedi]

Who in the heck cares if a player SB pierce of gear. If a player still does a good a job and it doesn't impact a group leave the person alone.