Am I the only one who feels that the vertical progression needs to slow down?

[MasamuneBranford]

Relic weapons appeal to almost everyone, which to me, is the game's downfall. I feel since the zodiac questline started - all I do is grind fates/ roulettes / dailies, etc. In 2.1 - I had time to attempt extreme primals or BCB, but now I feel compelled to work towards my animous / novus. As a casual, I feel that the zodiac weapons are a trap. There is a certain appeal to a weapon that will be available for likely years to come that you feel like you're falling behind or doing something wrong if you're not actively working towards upgrading it. Now I find myself not having time to try to conqueror BCB, extreme primals, play other games, etc.

How come extreme primals, BCBs, the upcoming brutal BCB, etc. can't also drop atma, alexandrite (heck - maybe even books)? How many people really have the time to work towards a novus while also trying to conqueror BCB? Yet both are kind of put on a pedestal as achievements we should all be working towards.

Maybe I'm in the minority - but I feel like the game is moving too fast now. Anyone else feel the same way? I'd like to play other games as well - but it's gotten to the point where if I'm not daily grinding away in FFXIV - I feel like i'm falling way behind. It wasn't like this during 2.0 or 2.1.

I guess my point would be - if you're good enough to beat T9 and get an item level 115 weapon - shouldn't your progress towards that also help earn you an animous / novus along the way? Who really has time to do both? It would provide incentive to do more than simply grind roulettes / brayfox which can be completed with your eyes closed.

[Nabian]

Why slow things down? I like the fact that the Relic weapons will be unique. I hope that one day the final forms will be so difficult to obtain that only 10-15% of the player population will ever obtain them.

[MasamuneBranford]

Why slow things down? I like the fact that the Relic weapons will be unique. I hope that one day the final forms will be so difficult to obtain that only 10-15% of the player population will ever obtain them.

I don't disagree that they should be rare. But as a player - shouldn't being able to tackle T9 help you earn an animous / novus along the way? I guess what i'm saying - I feel like a player should be able to aspire towards both goals (beat the most challenging content / possess a zodiac weapon). The point is - 99% of the game's population wouldn't have the time to do both. And even those who do - do they really like the grind? When does it become a chore that you wish you could also enjoy other great games that are regularly released?

Basically - I don't like that the game is essentially making you pick one path (I use the word "making" because 99% won't have time to do both). I feel that there is just simply too much to do and there is no reason someone who can tackle T9 isn't also deserving of a zodiac weapon (something that has the capability to be around for the entire lifespan of the game).

[Elway358]

Why slow things down? I like the fact that the Relic weapons will be unique. I hope that one day the final forms will be so difficult to obtain that only 10-15% of the player population will ever obtain them.

That's just it though, they're not difficult at all, simply a time sink. If only 10-15% end up with the final version, it wont be because it was difficult. It will be because they died of old age before it was done...

[Kerberon]

There has to be vertical progression for the endgame crowd. You're trying to play as a hardcore when you're a casual. (Yes I know that grinding isn't hard but the time investment) I think they are putting in some side content with chocobo breeding etc, but the only one responsible for feeling you need to grind is you. However I have seen playerbases drastically shrink and fall apart when there is no grind to work for and no vertical progression.

[MasamuneBranford]

There has to be vertical progression for the endgame crowd. You're trying to play as a hardcore when you're a casual. (Yes I know that grinding isn't hard but the time investment) I think they are putting in some side content with chocobo breeding etc, but the only one responsible for feeling you need to grind is you. However I have seen playerbases drastically shrink and fall apart when there is no grind to work for and no vertical progression.

Basically I feel that there should be the grind option for the zodiac and then there should be the skill option for the zodiac. Zodiac weapons are appealing to everyone. I dont' feel that the average player should only be able to pick one path.

[Malamasala]

Loyalty rewards could fix that. If SE gave you 1 zodiac or whatever weapon per 6 months, you'd SLOWLY reach having all you want.

[Lumidus]

If coil gave the best gear and progress on relic then all you would need to do is coil for everything. No need to do other content

[Wolf_Gang]

6 months for 20 more item levels?

That's fast for you?

[MasamuneBranford]

If coil gave the best gear and progress on relic then all you would need to do is coil for everything. No need to do other content

Not necessarily. If there was a lockout on alexandrite per week - then you could do roulettes / etc. for the rest of the week.