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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    because if they do people that went through the atma horror story will be butthurt over people having a lot less trouble doing it, and that would be unfair.
    This should never, EVER be a developer concern. People who work hard toward a goal in an MMO and convince themselves that there will never be better gear, or there will never be shortcuts added, etc, are deluding themselves. To survive, an MMO HAS to keep pushing forward, offering better and better carrots to keep people playing. At the same time, to prevent the game from becoming inaccessable to new players, older content needs to be made simpler and simpler.

    The Atma acquisition system will probably not be changed anytime soon, but it will be made easier eventually. The reward that people who did it the old, harder way get, is that they got their weapon done FIRST. Any MMO player should understand this: For any given item X that took you hundreds of hours or hundreds of failed instances to get, two years down the line item X will be handed to newer players on a silver platter. But don't worry - you'll still have item Z to strive for, and you'll have it to wave in the faces of those item X newbies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    This should never, EVER be a developer concern.
    Never EVER? I think the absolute never ever is incorrect. of course game developers are worried about making players feel like their achievements mean nothing. See: outrage of tanks feeling "slapped in the face" because the tank mount didn't take into account previously tanked raids. The outrage was so intense that SE had to make a statement to explain that previously tanked raids didn't count because they weren't keeping track of that data. See also: the forums outrage anytime SE announces that content is going to get nerfed. The outrage of nerfed content gets intense. Of course, SE is going to worry and be concerned about the outrage. As they should be.

    Atma farming will get nerfed at some point. Everything in this game does. But it won't be in 2.3 or 2.4 or 2.5. I predict that it won't get nerfed until the entire zodiac quest is released.

    On that note, I finally got my gae bolg atma last night. atma farming sucks. but once you finally have all 12 it feels pretty amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LexSunfire View Post
    Never EVER? I think the absolute never ever is incorrect. of course game developers are worried about making players feel like their achievements mean nothing.
    That's the whole point, though - believing that their achievements mean nothing is a player attitude, and a faulty one at that. Their achievements DID mean something - for a while after achieving, they were on top of the world. Folks brandishing their ilvl 95 Allagan weapons were, for a time, holding the best weapons in the game. That is meaningful! If any of them believed for an instant that a six-month old game would provide them with the best of the best, period, for ever and ever nothing will be better than this, then that is a problem with those players, not with the developers.

    The other sorts of outrage you mentioned are different kinds of outrage. Of course players are going to complain whenever SE makes changes that don't favor them; that's a given, and on occasion the complaints are even valid. The outrage I'm talking about is strictly "I worked hard for the best gear and now it's not the best anymore" outrage. I believe that kind of outrage is unreasonable, and that SE should not bend over to accomodate whiners of that kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    That's the whole point, though - believing that their achievements mean nothing is a player attitude, and a faulty one at that.
    my original comment to this was longer, but I've decided to make it a lot shorter.

    Player attitude is everything to game developers. It is then on the developers to determine what attitudes are "faulty" or "valid." Though, I wouldn't use those words. I think it's more like developers have to determine what feedback is important enough for them to incorporate.
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    Last edited by LexSunfire; 06-19-2014 at 04:49 AM.