The real reasons 1.0 failed

**Nana_Balthazar** · 06-13-2014 02:39 AM

-the combat system with its stamina gauge and no auto attacks was horrid
-the game punished mages making no way to get MP other than expensive ethers or a trip back to an aetheryte every 2 fights making it so no one wanted to player THM or CNJ
-lacked a lot of iconic FF stuff (couldn't ride chocobos, no recognizable jobs/skills)
-a confusing class system that left some classes (namely THM and CNJ) for the better part of the leveling experience unsure as to the role as both classes had damaging and healing spells)
-extremely poor translation effort that left even the Japanese players wondering what was going on(look up horsebird fiasco which is what in beta the Japanese maps were plastered with this in the chocobo stable areas where you could inconveniently not pick up a chocobo)*
-lack of auction house

nope

- combat system seemed horrible because of the bad programming
- don't need iconic FF stuff everywhere. Protip : there are FF without jobs.
- one word hasnt been understood and it's automatically a "poor translation"? yeah, right. Besides : http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=23333
- lol

-server systems made massive lag if more than 1 party was around
-only the best pc's could play the game on anything higher than minimum to medium settings
-fatigue system
-EXTREMELY confusing UI
-a very confusing retainer system used for selling items

Only this. And it's already a lot. The programming in particular, being the very foundations of the game, has effect on everything else.

**Reynhart** · 06-13-2014 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Yurimi

-the combat system with its stamina gauge and no auto attacks was horrid

Strange, because TP now clearly reminds me of the stamina gauge, refilling over time

And auto-attacks doesn't do much in 2.0

**Fensfield** · 06-13-2014 02:44 AM

You make a good point - at the original poster - but a lot of those 'right' reasons were opinion and all.. I loved some of the things you noted as empirically bad. Buut clashed with the industry standards I'll admit..

Also, Yoshida's own analysis? This is the same guy said the game had no identity beyond 'not FFXI' when it was sytemically and thematically a fairly obvious homage to Tactics (an identity that v2.0 has actually since diluted). And the same guy that desperately avoided talking about most of the rampant executive meddling and scapegoating of former team members. FFXIV 1.0 failed for a lot of reasons, but it's a hundred times more complex than the official reasons given or the vast majority of the unofficial discussions.

**Bizniztyme** · 06-13-2014 02:45 AM

The real reason? It sucked!!!! Plain and simple.

**Gramul** · 06-13-2014 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

The real reason? It sucked!!!! Plain and simple.

That's the broad reason, OP is listing specifics.
And she's mostly right. Those where the big complaints I heard when it first started out

People did however complain about:
-The copy paste terrain. Didn't bother me much but I didn't like the lack of overall variety.
-A severe lack of content. At launch we didn't even have dungeons.
-It may be surprising, but lot of people did complain about a LACK of similarity to XI.

People liked the world being dangerous, just not with level 30 enemies just outside the towns.

**Keres** · 06-13-2014 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by Quiz

It also mentioned how they felt like they could just do whatever, since FFXI was popular, surely the new one would be popular too. Basically, hubris.

**Velox** · 06-13-2014 03:13 AM

**RowanLauron** · 06-13-2014 03:59 AM

What's the point talking about this now when 2.0 has been out for almost a year...?

**BlackHaloJT** · 06-13-2014 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by RowanLauron

What's the point talking about this now when 2.0 has been out for almost a year...?

And it is still lackluster compared to what 1.23 was. Maybe we can wait another year....

**Swishytail** · 06-13-2014 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Reynhart

Strange, because TP now clearly reminds me of the stamina gauge, refilling over time

And auto-attacks doesn't do much in 2.0

My Monk's auto-attack damage begs to differ. =P

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