ninja/rogue going to be over-played

[Nikorayu]

It's *Already* a problem, so I don't see how you can say "for a week or two", it's been like this for months.

Only yesterday I had to wait 30 mins for Expert Roulette to pop as a DPS class, during fairly busy hours in game.

Ofc. Seeing as you have lvl'd only ranged to 50, you're bound to have long wait time. It's the same for me, but when I queue for low lvl as DRG or MNK my wait time is less than 5 minutes. Ranged jobs are simply popular.

[Vladislav]

Laughing @ dps waiting times bit after release of Rogue ;D (because everyone will want to burn , play , try , etc the class/job)

[KingOfAbyss]

What I came to learn about this game: level as much jobs to 50 withing your Eorzean powers. If you're in a static, make a list of which job you like the most. Join the static with either of those jobs. Within 2 months you'll be clearing all endgame content having almost all the gear needed, then it's time for NIN (if NIN is what you wanted initially).

My point. If you force your NIN, you'll end up waiting forever to find a group (that is if you'd wish to do endgame with it). At one point your group can switch up jobs a little so you can eventually play your NIN if that is what you wanted to main.

Just my opinion, some people like waiting for some reason.

Ty for the Eorzean Powers, nice way to put our hard work, I like it ^^

ahem *serious mode*

With my FC and some other friends from other FC, we are getting into a 'dynamic-static' In which those who have unlocked and geared up properly the jobs they like to play, to be entitled to do so.

As much as I want my warlion, If another mates wants it to, We do one round me as PLD, the other round it's him.

And then, another one wants to play DRG/MNK/anything - I will have a spot for my Ninja, as well as any other.

This game isn't carved into stone: it's evolving, and I think the ones that unlocks all, have more freedom to play (not to say they have fun playing an Alt class)

I have only a small percentage (GF included) that will want to play only a specific role (SMN/BLM) so we work around those, and.. we have fun ^^

I agree whatever is new in the game, people will rush to taste it. Then, time will make it return to normal, having only one more DPS/future tank/future healer into the 4-8-24 teams.

[Danbo05]

How will they get hit by more plumes if they have perma sprint? They don't have position requirements either for their attacks if i recall correctly, they will be the "easiest" melee. Though since there will be more of them that means you will see more of them mess up.

That was my point. Having perma sprint doesn't save a derp from being a derp.

[LineageRazor]

I wonder the achievements and titles for have all 50 on jobs will be reset.

I still believe that musketeer and rogue will be added at the same time, and they simply haven't gotten around to the official announcement for musketeer yet (gotta spread the big news out over several months, after all). So here's how I think they'll handle achievements:

Text for the (current) all jobs achievement will be altered as so:
- A Life of Adventure: Acheive level 50 as a gladiator, pugilist, marauder, archer, lancer, conjurer, thaumaturge, and arcanist. Item Awarded: Paragon's Crown.

New achievements will be added:
- A Life of Action: Achieve level 50 as a rogue and musketeer.
- A Life of Glory: Achieve level 50 in all disciplines of War and Magic. Item Awarded: Paragon's Crown +1

As for rogue (and musketeer) being overplayed, yeah, during the initial months the lower level dungeons will be FLOODED with DDs. I will likely be one of them. That said, when it comes to endgame the majority of these players will go back to their old classes, and for many those old classes will be healers and tanks. The new dd classes will have no long-term impact, I think - but in the short term, enjoy those Duty Roulette queue times. Hope you have a book to read!

[Waeksyn]

Things will settle down once the initial rush goes through. As someone else pointed out, people who like to tank will play tank, people who like to heal will play healer. The number of jobs available for each type won't change that much.

They should, though add tank and healer jobs at the same time. That way, the initial rush will be balanced through DF as tanks tank, healers heal, ...

[KingOfAbyss]

Why would people get into DF for their new class/jobs?

Make a PF, ask friends, FC mates.. LS it's not that hard.. just like some do wintrading, you can do one run with you as NIN, next run its another person, etc..

I will still DF with my tank, so rest assured (ok sometimes SCH, my WHM mate should be WAR 50 as I type this ^^) - I DF for the bonuses, like all of you I guess?

And now DF High-lvl and Expert with 3-4 other members if they are online, which - gives us bonuses, no need to cope with any other player's bad attitudes..

sad part: people that need tanks/healers, even nice ones..

sum tin wong..

[Waeksyn]

Why would people get into DF for their new class/jobs?

Um, because DF roulette gives massive XP bonuses.

[SinisterJoint]

ive planned on being a ninja or thief since beta so, it WILL be my main

[Logistical]

My Raid group actually refuses to let anyone re-roll Ninja until we see it being played properly. I plan to make the re-roll, but until I can upfront the numbers like the rest of our dps and get the class down, I will not be touching it in a raid environment.