This is not FFXI

[Ravarashi]

I cannot be the only one who is tired of people saying "give me this because i liked it in FFXI" or "nin was tank in FFXI, so will be tank here" (followed by tears when it is DPS). I'm getting really tired of the comparison between the two. I didn't get mad when my Monk couldn't use suplex, but Sabin from FFVI was a Monk and had suplex. It's a different game with a different engine and different feel. The characters and classes are different, so can we PLEASE stop using XI as a basis for how this game should/will develop?

[Kiroh]

To be fair, this game is in sore need of more tank and healer jobs, and is already over-saturated with DPS. It's not about something being in XI, it's about XIV needing something they should have added first.

Right, I'd love Samurai tank right now. That's not the complaint I have. We do need a new tank, but it was never going to be ninja

People wanted Ninja to be a tank because we need tanks, not because they honestly expected it to be a tank.

[Ravarashi]

Right, I'd love Samurai tank right now. That's not the complaint I have. We do need a new tank, but it was never going to be ninja

[Lexia]

I rather have XIV compared to XI then compared to WoW.

[Tharian]

To be brutally honest... Ninja in Final Fantasy XI was originally planned by the Development Team to be a DPS Class. The problem, and reason why it was regarded as a Tank was because the Devs decided to give Ninja the broken-est version of the Blink-Spell they possibly could, and allowed the players to give Ninja access to the Warrior's Provoke Command via Sub-Classing. That is the only reason it could tank. Otherwise it was really just a really bad DPS class.

Will it be a Tank in this game? Probably not. Will it be a decent to good DPS class? Who can tell other than the Dev's at this point?

[Sen_Terrechant]

I rather have XIV compared to XI then compared to WoW.

This, and it stands to reason OP that people would compare it to its predecessor.

Stop being butthurt because they are doing that.

Furthermore anyone that knows anything about XI knows it was designed as a DPS but players took at as a tank [using Thief hate swap mechanics] and ran with it.

Lastly, where are all these tears your seeing. The VAST MAJORITY of people are happy for a new class. The only issue people have is that there is already an abudance of DPS and a lack of Tanks/Healers. It has NOTHING to do with NIN being a DPS.

[Enepttastic]

To be fair, this game is in sore need of more tank and healer jobs, and is already over-saturated with DPS. It's not about something being in XI, it's about XIV needing something they should have added first.

True

People wanted Ninja to be a tank because we need tanks, not because they honestly expected it to be a tank.

Not true.

[blowfin]

It's not about something being in XI, it's about XIV needing something they should have added first.

It's totally about that, just about everything (non balance related) that people complain about regarding jobs is borne out of some notion they got from previous FF titles.

Examples:
- RDM melee crowd in XI
- SMN's complaining about their Egi's in XIV
- People who want XIV DRG's to have wyvern pets

People seem to think "Oh I LOVED Job X in FFII, it should be exactly the same as that in every FF game for eternity.".

[Volsung]

Meh, this game isn't XI and I'm glad its not XI, however, there is nothing wrong with
wanting something you might have enjoyed from another game. We are free to want
different things, and to each person they want different stuff. I would love more stuff
like campaign and besieged in XIV. That doesnt mean it has to be exactly the same at
all. I just want more content I can jump right into with npc allies and tons of enemies.

Fates could be like that if they were given idk.... a soul? at all lol. Theyre just spamfests.

We may not agree with what others want. I want nin dps and sam tank. I wanted thf to
be a job, but doesnt look like that will happen. And I get over it.

[Cherie]

I applaud them adding ninja like this.

To me, it shows they are trying to make people happy even though this is going to cause trouble for them.

People don't really realize all the complaints they are going to get now because duty roulette queues will be horrible. SE knows this, there is no way they don't know, but they are releasing ninja first anyway. The reason is because they know we want to play it. People like playing dps classes more It's going to cause lots of trouble, at the same time though...

In a way, it could be compared to giving your child chocolate for dinner because they are begging for it. Now the parent has to deal with a hyper child that won't sleep and will probably get hungry in the middle of the night for real food and wake them up.

Basically they are spoiling us. Maybe they should have made us eat our vegetables and released a tank though, no denying that. Maybe spoiling us isn't a good thing. It might be the less good of the two options they could have done (IE making ninja a tank), but doing something at all is good imho. They could have starved the child! lol