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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    I'm sure he never promised a MSK class or job so he's not making any excuses. It's just you expecting something that you shouldn't have just to get pissed.
    Here are the facts:
    1. XIV 1.0 alpha launched. All of the current classes save for Arcanist were out at launch, with Arcanist and Musketeer being "close to launch."
    2. 2.0 launched with Arcanist, one of the missing classes. Those of us who were excited for Musketeer were annoyed, but we'd already waited two years by that point.
    3. In an interview at last E3, Yoshi said that "it's not about what classes I want to put in but rather which ones I have to put in" and made mention about a gun class. He also said something to the effect of wanting to make it a dual-wielding class.
    4. In a more recent interview he said that we'd be getting more classes before the next expansion. The gun class was alluded to as being "not what we all expect."
    5. E3 rolled around this year and he showcased the Rogue class with one of its jobs, Ninja. No mention of Musketeer anywhere except for an interview with 2p.com where he basically sums it up as "We're doing Rogue before Musketeer because something something pvp."

    So you're right, he never promised the class. Tanaka promised the class way back, but that's ancient history now. What he has done is tease the class endlessly, adding to how annoying it already is that we've had to wait for four years without even a mention of the thing. I have every right to expect the class, as does every single player who's been waiting on it since 1.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    So you're right, he never promised the class. Tanaka promised the class way back, but that's ancient history now. What he has done is tease the class endlessly, adding to how annoying it already is that we've had to wait for four years without even a mention of the thing. I have every right to expect the class, as does every single player who's been waiting on it since 1.0.
    You can expect whatever you want, but how is he making excuses when he never promised anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    You can expect whatever you want, but how is he making excuses when he never promised anything.
    I think a lot of people are just annoyed that there are hints of a gun class in the game, but we haven't heard anything about it but really vague information. I'm sure if you've looked around limsa you've seen the banners with dual pistols on them, and that many NPCs carry a gun in a holster. Merlwyb uses guns as a weapon. It's teasing the players to the point that it's frustrating. Yoshi hasn't "promised" them, but people can't help it if they jump to the conclusion that we are getting a gun class at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farah View Post
    I think a lot of people are just annoyed that there are hints of a gun class in the game, but we haven't heard anything about it but really vague information. I'm sure if you've looked around limsa you've seen the banners with dual pistols on them, and that many NPCs carry a gun in a holster. Merlwyb uses guns as a weapon. It's teasing the players to the point that it's frustrating. Yoshi hasn't "promised" them, but people can't help it if they jump to the conclusion that we are getting a gun class at some point.
    Get annoyed all you want, but don't be calling the man a lier and that he is making excuses for not adding the class or job. So childish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    Get annoyed all you want, but don't be calling the man a lier and that he is making excuses for not adding the class or job. So childish.
    Well then maybe he should take the guild out of limsa if he isn't going to add it.. >_>
    I'm with you Llen I'm a sad panda I get no guns *reaches out for a hug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemma View Post
    Well then maybe he should take the guild out of limsa if he isn't going to add it.. >_>
    I'm with you Llen I'm a sad panda I get no guns *reaches out for a hug*
    Why should he remove it? He's still going to add it, he just didn't say when. He has never said it will be at the same time or before rogue, that's the community's own fault for making assumptions. It could still be before the expansion but after 2.4, at latest probably the expansion which should be soon ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    Get annoyed all you want, but don't be calling the man a lier and that he is making excuses for not adding the class or job. So childish.
    I never called him a liar. I just said people expect it cause there are hints to it already in game. I'm personally not angry or annoyed that the gun class isn't in game. Sure it would be nice, but there are other people who want it way more then I do.
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    Last edited by Farah; 06-12-2014 at 02:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    5. E3 rolled around this year and he showcased the Rogue class with one of its jobs, Ninja. No mention of Musketeer anywhere except for an interview with 2p.com where he basically sums it up as "We're doing Rogue before Musketeer because something something pvp."

    So you're right, he never promised the class. Tanaka promised the class way back, but that's ancient history now.
    He's been saying for much longer that a unique stealth class would be a higher priority than a gun class considering there's already a bow class and two other ranged DPS. I'm sure a gun class is coming soon, and you insulting him is not gonna make it happen any faster.
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    And by that same logic I could say that we already have two melee damage dealers and only one range physical attacker, why add a 3rd melee ?

    But saying for much longer stealth has been a priority I'm not so sure on I know he mentioned scout a few times but he also mentioned guns, dark knights and red mages as examples in other interviews. Unless of course you can link me to such an interview in which case my bad I just don't remember it being said.

    I agree with it being a bit in the slap in face for people who have been waiting for a gun class since 1.0 like myself. I would not mind it not being released ( Ninja looked good btw! not hating on ninja) if you just gave us some sort of hint even a clue as to what direction you are taking it in just something, anything its been 4 years for some of us.
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    Last edited by BigMac; 06-12-2014 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMac View Post
    And by that same logic I could say that we already have two melee damage dealers and only one range physical attacker, why add a 3rd melee ?

    But saying for much longer stealth has been a priority I'm not so sure on I know he mentioned scout a few times but he also mentioned guns, dark knights and red mages as examples in other interviews. Unless of course you can link me to such an interview in which case my bad I just don't remember it being said.

    I agree with it being a bit in the slap in face for people who have been waiting for a gun class since 1.0 like myself. I would not mind it not being released ( Ninja looked good btw! not hating on ninja) if you just gave us some sort of hint even a clue as to what direction you are taking it in just something, anything its been 4 years for some of us.
    He did mention those yes. But he specifically mentioned a stealth class as being the priority class he wanted to implement first. Then a gun class after only cause the guild is already in game.

    He's also already told us the gun class wouldn't be how we thought it was going to be. And given his most recent interview sawing it would be too similar to a Mage class playstyle it seems a given that it won't be a ranged physical Dps. Hence your counter falls apart.
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