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    Player
    Kyana's Avatar
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    Kyana Nekote
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Titan is one of the fights where a bad connection/lag can cause you alot of trouble.
    I experienced that myself until SE fixed their servers, but since then never had problems dodging. *crosses fingers*

    What I find funny is that people seem to think "high ilvl = good at dodging/knows the fight/good player".
    I had to laugh (a frantic and hysteric laugh) when I was tanking in a ilvl95 Leviathan Ex party and the 4 DDs were not able to kill the yellow Spheres fast enough.

    I agree that healing is a hectic job when you have to dodge while trying to keep everyone alive.
    But this job is made ALOT easier if all party members can avoid avoidable damage like plumes, dashes and such.
    Everyone should do what he/she can to avoid damage and mitigate/heal incomming damage as good as possible to make the whole run alot smoother.

    For example casting Stoneskin on yourself as PLD on on the other tank to lower spikes, using support skills like Mantra or selfheal abilities.
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    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    there are 9 attacks in the last phase of titan HM. if you guys are having trouble memorizing attacks then you are reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally going to struggle later on.

    my suggestion to the people who "lag to much." learn the rotation. write it down on a little index card and put it next to your monitor/tv/vita whatever, make a little song out of it and sing it to yourself while the fight is happening. it may sound silly, but it works
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    KokonoeAiyoko's Avatar
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    Pomf-pomf Footahnaree
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
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    Enepttastic's Avatar
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    Valaerin Mathens
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    Since when is memorization skill? Some people don't want to run that fight hundreds of times.
    It's not, nor is it actually needed in Titan and that includes the EX fight. Honestly think that's part of the problem is that people are thinking too much about what Titan's about to do instead of being ready to react to what he is doing.

    What you need to know for the Ex fight:
    Dodge Landslide
    Dodge Plumes
    How to handle Gaols
    How to handle adds
    Notice bomb spawns(2 bombs that spawn at different times minimum, if you can notice three, all the better).

    That's it and barely any more that you have to remember for any other fight. If you're a tank or healer, knowing when Mountain Buster's coming is helpful but still not 100% needed.

    Granted, I also think the "Stack everyone on his ass" tactic is pants on heads retarded but whatever. Can it work? Yes. Is it the best idea for the average group? Hell no.

    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Swear to god, damned near every single time I see, "DODGE! show up on my screen while tanking, I have Piccolo screaming in my head.

    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Even if you do have lag, the entire fight is scripted. You can know in advance when a weight is coming. There's no reason to ever get hit by it. You can start moving before it appears.

    Sorry but lag isn't a good excuse.
    Funny you say that, I've seen quite a few deaths due to people moving before plumes show and thus plunking theirs' down into everyone else's way.
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    Last edited by Enepttastic; 06-11-2014 at 10:37 PM. Reason: Idiotic 1k char limit...
    Until now there have been mainly two means of progression: the first being defeating powerful enemies in end-game content to obtain high-item-level equipment, and the second being collecting Allagan tomestones to purchase gear. The Zodiac Weapons do not have the restrictions of these two methods, but are designed to take a long time to complete.
    Current Tome Requirements for Zodiac Weapons:
    225+900+13500+1500= 16125
    Additionally: Post limits are, flat-out, completely idiotic. 1k char limit's stupid to begin with but 20 posts a day? Seriously? What the hell SE?

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    Drako's Avatar
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I wouldn't be making the mistake of grinding titan at all. It's bad enough getting lagged out in standard dungeons, but titan? Forget that, that's a genuine waste of time every sense the last patch. I mean it's bad enough you got to wait until you finally get that perfect group. But now you have to contend with the random waves of lag that come out of no where with no warning. Most "good" players knowing this fact are likely avoiding DF(if they even use it) and won't be looking for any titan groups in PF for that reason. So you're naturally left with a proportionately higher amount of new or inexperenced players attempting this fight sense the last patch. It makes sense you would be observing a significantly higher amount of players that seem to not be very good at "dodging". Also ilvl100 doesn't mean they know anything about somewhat difficult fights. I run into people in DF all the time at that ilvl that don't even know how to do there job, much less worry about easily learned mechanics.
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    Ronyx's Avatar
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    Karse Farrence
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 72
    Yup the Rule of Thumb we all should use is.... High iLevel like i100 and even more is NOT = to good players or that they know what to do in a certain fight. These days anyone can have outstanding gears and still fail at almost anything.
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    Boo Box
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    Exodus
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    Sage Lv 100
    I've actually really lucked out lately with Titan HM in DF as I have yet to have a group fail. But then, I'm a healer, so I have slightly more impact on the outcome of the fight than others. With that said, on my normal days, I may still eat a plume here and there as I don't run that trial too often. On my good days I dodge like a pro while healing, and on those days I give myself a mental gold star. Perhaps if I gave a shit, or had better memorization skills, I'd have it down, but as it is I still goof every so often. I even keep the rotation chart up while fighting just for reference!

    The more vocal people in this thread need to realize that everyone has a different skill level, and also there will constantly be new players entering into these fights, or maybe even "well-geared" players that just aren't that familiar with something. We can't all be as awesome as you think you are.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 06-11-2014 at 10:55 PM.

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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Level a caster so you can sprint. You can have sprint up for every wotl. And yes, I did this over 200 times on ps3 before they fixed the character refresh. I had to move before the mechanics started our I'd get hit.
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    Iriadysa Daenar
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Oh, it's another of those support group threads where everyone comes to dump their own excuse as to why they can't beat a simple fight in a video game with average skill requirements.

    Yeah, it's lag why all of you are dying. Don't worry, we understand.
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    Laurelin Kementari
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Iriadysa View Post
    Oh, it's another of those support group threads where everyone comes to dump their own excuse as to why they can't beat a simple fight in a video game with average skill requirements.

    Yeah, it's lag why all of you are dying. Don't worry, we understand.
    Because it's totally the player's fault when their screen clearly shows they are standing outside of landslide or a plume, yet still get hit, right? Psh, they just should have moved pre-emptively instead of relying on in-game visual indicators of safe spots. Hell, why even have aoe-markers or timed attacks at all? Everything should just be insta-cast and people should just move pre-emptively by learning the rotation out of their head.
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    Last edited by LaurelinKementari; 06-11-2014 at 11:54 PM.

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