So, now Monk/Dragoon have to compete with yet another class?

[Velhart]

Because you're thinking small.
Think of future classes/jobs. Are you going to align EVERY melee to STR? Because that's just sounds lazy as heck and boring.
It already feels bland as heck. They should mix it up and give classes/jobs a bit more personality as far as attributes go.

Yes, they should align every melee with STR. They should align every ranged DPS with DEX, and they should align every magic DPS with INT. Its simple and easy to understand and much more organized. Giving them different stats does not give it more personality. Only the abilities and play style alone give it personality, not what it's primary stat is.

Because it has been associated with Ninja in past Final Fantasy series to be honest its only right to implement a new stat.

Strength has been Ninja's primary stat in almost every FF game they have been in.

[Nahara]

And also, as I suggested above, a trait to convert an attribute to another is an option. One that could not only be applied to Rogue but to future classes as well; in order to simplify the process.

And it all comes back to that all-important question: WHY?

What is the point of changing the way the stats, as they are now, currently function? What is the point of using a trait to change DEX to boost melee physical damage? Why go through all the extra effort to make DEX a stat usable for a melee physical DPS class when STR already does everything you need it to do and is already on gear that mechanically and thematically matches a lightly-armored melee physical DPS class?

Because you're thinking small.
Think of future classes/jobs. Are you going to align EVERY melee to STR? Because that's just sounds lazy as heck and boring.
It already feels bland as heck. They should mix it up and give classes/jobs a bit more personality as far as attributes go.

You may call it lazy, boring, and bland. Myself and others consider it efficient. There's no need to twist a stat to work in a way that it doesn't when a stat that already does what you need to do exists already.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

Is it really more competition when you'll only ever have to roll against 3 other dps ever? Majority of the time those dps are, for the most part, evenly divided between melee and ranged dps anyways. Therefore Ideally,unless you are REALLY unlucky, you only have to compete against one other person... is this really a cause for concern for you o.O?

Hell, if its shared between other STR users and given it's new status among job/classes, alot of players will already have said accessories anyways on their monks/dragoons and therefore don't need to roll on new ones.

[Nayto]

You guys are so hopeful of Stat overhauls huh...
Why bother overhauling DEX to be something for the new class when you can just keep it to STR?

If something needs to be overhauled, their first line of defense is the cross-classed skills of other classes, so no one gets the idea of bringing 'class' rather than 'jobs' to end-game. If you can do it for minimal effort on your development team, then do it so you can move on to more important aspects like said class skills.

And also... it's still 2-4 DPS in a party, mathematically that's still the same regardless of the new class. The only thing that changes and will probably hinder the DPS loot is the mainhand... since w/e chance of drop is now spread to Rogue weapons. But I bet the drop is so unnoticeable it'll feel the same anyways, and that loldrg spear will still make you think that drops the most.

[silentwindfr]

i don't see why people want to change the stats and how they work...
why? simply for be aligned on FF11? one thing that sure since the start is... it's nothing is aligned with FF11 since the start. it's another game with it own rules and one of the rule is STR for melee dps, DEX for ranged physical dps, INT for ranged magical DPS.... why change this?

other point, the monk and the ninja are soo close as type of jobs, change the dex for make it working like AGI, ok, but that means the monk too will be based on DEX... it's soo much work for change this...

[Samburi]

Str there, Dex here, but 1 stat everyone overlook.
What if NIN is the same what MNK was during 1.0? A STR/INT hybrid

[SharpD]

Str there, Dex here, but 1 stat everyone overlook.
What if NIN is the same what MNK was during 1.0? A STR/INT hybrid

Said that a few pages back. No one cared lol.

[Gormogon]

I don't see how there's any "competition" outside of people wanting all the gear for themselves because they only see selfish benefits from gear stats.

Dragon Monk and Ninja aren't gonna be sharing the same weapons.

There's also job exclusive gear.

As for gear I remember when Lancer and Dragoon had access to tank gear. Then there was gear that was simply generalized as "DoW" or "DoM".

All I'm seeing is DPSers feeling threaten that it may take longer for them to get their gear.

[Nayto]

As for gear I remember when Lancer and Dragoon had access to tank gear. Then there was gear that was simply generalized as "DoW" or "DoM".

Only pre-50, sans that cavalry set in brayflox normal. 50+ all gear is exclusive, and any gear that looks the same is just a re-skin. Healers, tanks and casters tend to share gear amongst themselves though.

I can see MNK and NIN sharing gear amongst themselves though... which in this case would actually 'benefit' the loot competition... because MNKs would have already geared up their NIN.