NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[melflomil]

So how do people know that the DEX traits are for rouge? Don't Arc/bed have these traits too?

[ForteXX]

So how do people know that the DEX traits are for rouge? Don't Arc/bed have these traits too?

Exactly, they already have it. Which is why people are sure its for Rogue/Ninja.

[Reynhart]

Exactly, they already have it. Which is why people are sure its for Rogue/Ninja.

I still don't understand how datamining 2.28 can prove traits for a 2.4 class.

One thing I thought for Rogue is giving it pretty useful cross-class skills. The whole "there's not point in playing a class past lvl30" is perhaps something that bothers the dev team, and they can try to balance the two.
Which can tie to the "support" role some people mentioned. Good buffs or debuffs available for Rogue could make it really interesting to play even without a Relic.

Or...In the live letter, they talked about Rogue mechanic based on combo (If I recall correctly). Imagine a trait that boost damage based on the number of different combos you made, and Rogue having access to cross-class skills that combo, like Impulse Drive->Disembowel...which could fit quite well with Rogue since Impulse Drive is more powerful from the back and disembowel just sound like fighting dirty

[Pinworms]

Tank and healing jobs should have been added to the game before more DD. To be 100% honest.... An entire class/job should not even be a thought until the orginal classes all have their 2 jobs.

This is kinda a silly move all together in my opinion.

[silentwindfr]

I don't see them making any of the classes just as strong in a party as a job would be. Also it might end up making Ninja overpowered if the class Rogue is stronger than the rest of the classes.

not really, you must think it differently, like they have make the arcanist have 2 different job branch from the the same class.
instead to use the classical class/jobs system they update it for this class, they don't need to do it for the other one.

the point it's this, you level your rogue until 30, you get your cristal jobs for ninja and equip it, all the skill of the rogue under 30 are the same for the ninja, but when you are in ninja, all the skill from the rogue class after 30 change for be more... ninja like. allows a more deep difference between the rogue and the ninja.... there, no need to add new skill every 5 level, since all the skill you normall get from 30-50 will be different.

and the best it's a way to have 2 dps coming from the same class, by making the class viable option for the high level. if the skill you get as rogue from 30-50 are unique to it, it's possible to have both in the same group.

now, i know it's only my dream running wild, but i hope they can make it like this, will be soo much better than what we have soo far.

Tank and healing jobs should have been added to the game before more DD. To be 100% honest.... An entire class/job should not even be a thought until the orginal classes all have their 2 jobs.

This is kinda a silly move all together in my opinion.

you know that add more tank and healing class will change nothing? if the people don't want to tank or heal they will never do it even if you have 10 tank and 10 healer and only 1 dps class. that how people work... it's silly to even hope to solve the trouble by add new tank and healer class... since the trouble lie in what people want to do!

Tank and healer have huge responsability, DD don't have this huge pressure and that why people often choose to play this. (and the big number, we always forget the big number)

[Authority]

I don't understand.

He states to "save your gear". So monk's gear can be applied to Ninjas one?

[NagisaFurukawa]

Everyone knows that the second job will be Dancer! Stop kidding yourselves! They will be the maidens of the new gaming area/hotel/casino :P

[melflomil]

I don't understand.

He states to "save your gear". So monk's gear can be applied to Ninjas one?

IMO I think that only falls for gear that says "Disciple of war" which can be equipped to any class accept for magic users, but people said yoshi specifically said melee gear. Those are class specific. I personally think it was a mistranslation.

[ForteXX]

I still don't understand how datamining 2.28 can prove traits for a 2.4 class.

Because when testing stuff, most games actually load some of the data into the actual client well in advance in order to help test it/ease implementation. In 2.28, not only did they put in some skills that based on their descriptions belong to Rogue/Ninja, they also added 2 currently empty class/job slots, which would be the ones for Rogue/Ninja.

[Exstal]

Because when testing stuff, most games actually load some of the data into the actual client well in advance in order to help test it/ease implementation. In 2.28, not only did they put in some skills that based on their descriptions belong to Rogue/Ninja, they also added 2 currently empty class/job slots, which would be the ones for Rogue/Ninja.

How to verify this? I like this statement.