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  1. #571
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    Florence Leduc
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    or, because they plan to allows Rogue people to be as strong than ninja, giving them special skill for them only.
    i'm the only one a bit disturb by the fact that the rogue in the video use a very detailled armor that is nowhere to be found. it's way too specific to be a simple armor be usable by bard or monk.

    in the V1 it was possible to play the game with the class and not only the jobs. but in ARR the jobs it's all you need, the class are non existant passed a certain level. maybe they want to change this and allows the people that want to play rogue to play it.
    a way to do it, and yoshida had talk of this in an old interview, when you equip the job crystal, the skill from 30-50 change! like this the rogue have him personal skill, that ninja can't use.
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  2. #572
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    or, because they plan to allows Rogue people to be as strong than ninja, giving them special skill for them only.
    i'm the only one a bit disturb by the fact that the rogue in the video use a very detailled armor that is nowhere to be found. it's way too specific to be a simple armor be usable by bard or monk.

    in the V1 it was possible to play the game with the class and not only the jobs. but in ARR the jobs it's all you need, the class are non existant passed a certain level. maybe they want to change this and allows the people that want to play rogue to play it.
    a way to do it, and yoshida had talk of this in an old interview, when you equip the job crystal, the skill from 30-50 change! like this the rogue have him personal skill, that ninja can't use.
    That would be interesting , if rogue gets 30-35-40-45-50 skills , and that skills are only avaliable for rogue and nin cant even use.
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  3. #573
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    That would be interesting , if rogue gets 30-35-40-45-50 skills , and that skills are only avaliable for rogue and nin cant even use.
    So basically... Just giving Rogue a second Job?

    Why would they make the Class unique in the sense that it works like a Job, when they could just stick with the current convention and just put a second Job on it?
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  4. #574
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    in the V1 it was possible to play the game with the class and not only the jobs. but in ARR the jobs it\\'s all you need, the class are non existant passed a certain level. maybe they want to change this and allows the people that want to play rogue to play it.
    a way to do it, and yoshida had talk of this in an old interview, when you equip the job crystal, the skill from 30-50 change! like this the rogue have him personal skill, that ninja can\\'t use.
    They would have to retroactively redesign the other classes though or risk severe imbalance. Seems a lot of work to accommodate. Unless of course they do all this at the turn of an expansion.
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  5. #575
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    The main reason is that SCH uses different base stats for their role. If Ninja requires a different or additional stat compared to Rogue then they probably need a different set of exclusive weapons.
    New DEX traits have been found and they're likely for ROG. If Ninja uses STR instead or a mix of the two they'll have to create weapons to support the job. And if they're creating two sets of endgame weapons it means that there's a second job coming that they haven't announced yet (either in 2.4 or later on).
    Was it said that 2.4 will only release Rogue and Ninja until the expansion comes?
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  6. #576
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    or, because they plan to allows Rogue people to be as strong than ninja, giving them special skill for them only.
    i'm the only one a bit disturb by the fact that the rogue in the video use a very detailled armor that is nowhere to be found. it's way too specific to be a simple armor be usable by bard or monk.

    in the V1 it was possible to play the game with the class and not only the jobs. but in ARR the jobs it's all you need, the class are non existant passed a certain level. maybe they want to change this and allows the people that want to play rogue to play it.
    a way to do it, and yoshida had talk of this in an old interview, when you equip the job crystal, the skill from 30-50 change! like this the rogue have him personal skill, that ninja can't use.
    I don't see them making any of the classes just as strong in a party as a job would be. Also it might end up making Ninja overpowered if the class Rogue is stronger than the rest of the classes.
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  7. #577
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoLo View Post
    Was it said that 2.4 will only release Rogue and Ninja until the expansion comes?
    They said they are currently looking at a tank and healer for the expansion but who knows how plans will change.
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  8. #578
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    They said they are currently looking at a tank and healer for the expansion but who knows how plans will change.
    Ok, thank for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoLo View Post
    Ok, thank for the info.
    Hopefully sooner. As much as I'm looking forward to ninja, I'm a healer at heart.
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  10. #580
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    Kickle Cubicle
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Thief = Rogue = Thief = Rogue

    They are the exact same thing. So no we will not get a thief. Yoshi simply went with the name rogue to designate they are socially accepted thieves (though since they come from a city of pirates this was probably unnecessary)
    They're called Rogues because Thief is a classic Final Fantasy job. None of the classes in this game are given the same names as the classic Final Fantasy jobs (i.e. Dragoon, Paladin, etc.)
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