NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Reynhart]

If said DPS jobs had damage avoidance/mitigation abilities such as Evasion/Parry at rank A- or two levels of Utsusemi then sure. Struggling to think of any aside from Dancer though right now, which I also used as a tank, maybe you could help out.

By your explanation, MNK/NIN should have been a tank.
Enmity generating ability : Boost (Check)
Mitigation skills : B+ Evasion, A- Guard, Utsusemi from /NIN (Check)

I wonder why we haven't seen that more

[Flowen_Shiva]

It's not assumptions. Yoshida explained that he wanted Thief to be a class, but it appeared weird to have a "Thieve's guild" so the name was changed. But Rogue is everything that Thief was.
Actually, he could have made a secret Thieve's guild, than you could have entered with a password to the right person, but I don't know why he didn't go that way.

Yes he wants a thief class because it wouldn't be final fantasy without one, but thief is a traditional final fantasy job, and therefore would fit into the game as we know it as a job, not a class. So to fit into the system they have created in FF14, they make rogue the class. Makes perfect sense, I bet they add thief job in the future

[Blackcanary]

NinJa will be my main Job now thank you Yoshi P

[Reynhart]

Except he didn't give that explanation when specifically justifying why the class wasn't named "Thief".
If he hadn't say anything, I'd agree that THF could still be revealed later

[Starkbeaumont]

wonder if the af will be ilv50/55 or higher since default for your class should be at least 100 or even higher considering ct2 will give oils and sands when 2.4 arrives. Also relic the same way including atma grind and so on or will it be higher as well?

[Flowen_Shiva]

By your explanation, MNK/NIN should have been a tank.
Enmity generating ability : Boost (Check)
Mitigation skills : B+ Evasion, A- Guard, Utsusemi from /NIN (Check)

I wonder why we haven't seen that more

DRK - dreadspikes, drain
MNK - guard, dodge, chakra, hp boost
SAM - seigan/third eye
THF - high evasion and perfect dodge

Could go on..

Conclusion - DD have damage mitigation/avoidance abilities doesn't mean they are designed to be a tank. And for the record, in today's ff11 MNK is used as a tank most of the time lol

[Elvie]

Those who are claiming repeating what Yoshi said, that there can't be a "thieves guild" because it wouldn't fit into the game ...

fixed that for you.

[Flowen_Shiva]

Except he didn't give that explanation when specifically justifying why the class wasn't named "Thief".
If he hadn't say anything, I'd agree that THF could still be revealed later

The only thing that was said in regards to thief was a) He didn't feel a thieves guild fitted into the game b) the rogues originated from thieves.
I dunno I could still see thief becoming a job, with specifics like steal, treasure hunter, maybe the enmity controlling abilities from 11. One can hope I guess, I miss my Mandau!

[nibelunc]

We'll get THF job at a later point I think. It's just like Arcanist which leads to two different jobs (Scholar, Summoner).
I guess they would name the class "Thief" if this wouldn't be the case.
Maybe we'll get more information about it on the long way to patch 2.4

[LoLo]

Does it really matter whether it's called Thief, Rogue, or Super Fast Slicey Dicey man? It's like... the same thing.

Also if they wanted to make it dex well.. It wouldn't be that hard. Just make Dex part of its damage formula instead of STR. The description is just text information that can be changed, the actual damage formula is all that would really matter and they had to make that when they made the class/job. It could use int for damage and swing a sword if they wanted it to.

But I do agree with the idea of STR since thats what we have so far. It will probably share dungeon gear with monk or something. Dunno i'm more curious about the mudra skills.

People aren't complaining because the class isn't called Thief. People are complaining that there won't be a Thief job in the game. Job. Not class. Job. Do you understand now?