NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Radacci]

Make sure its Rogue CLASS and not Ninja JOB. Either way even if you some how got into a party for the lolz as a class it still doesn't make it a Thief Job. You seem rather unwilling to acknowledge those facts, and to that I feel sad for you that you can't comprehend that.

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I'm already in a T9 static, so obviously i will be going there as rogue class, to show that it will work; just like MRD works (ppl cleared T9 with mrd as DPS) and i could go as LNC also, cause over the course of the fight, the jumps don't really add that much dps (about 20dps, which i could cover with raging strike, and straight shot)
It's not a THF job, no, it probably won't be stealing anything, and i dont care about that. Cause if Stealing is all THF is doing, then it's boring anyway, and doesn't add anything to the party.
Rogue combat and Thief combat, is the same though, because Rogues were Thieves... So "You seem rather unwilling to acknowledge those facts, and to that I feel sad for you that you can't comprehend that."
But those that lack imagination, cannot imagine what is lacking; and you seem to lack the imagination to understand that Rogue and Thief is the same thing, stealing aside (which we don't really know anything about, ROG might be able to steal things also) Which makes it a Thief Class, rather than Thief job...which is a stupid thing to argue about. Because in that case, you can be both THF and NIN at the same time=win.

No one ever touches the very fact that in FF I Warrior becomes a Knight which is another term for the Paladin job. Because then their FFI argument false flat.

In case warrior becomes paladin, then thief can become ninja? which is what's happening in XIV
what arugment is supposed to fall flat here?
No one said anything about FF1 anyway, until you just assumed anyone had any argument for it?

[LoLo]

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Yep, I'm sure your static will appreciate you bring a class to T9

In case warrior becomes paladin, then thief can become ninja? which is what's happening in XIV
what arugment is supposed to fall flat here?
No one said anything about FF1 anyway, until you just assumed anyone had any argument for it?

The reason I said anything about Warrior turning into to Knight also known as Paladin is because that isn't in the game right now. However, the main reason people say Thief must turn into Ninja is because it happened in Final Fantasy I (derping yet?).

This game isn't going by the standards of Final Fantasy I because Warrior isn't a class that turns into Paladin making the FFI argument invalid derp de derp. This claim that Rogue is the Thief job is not very smart. Do you read the entire discussion or just parts of it (I forgot to add derps to my last post to help you understand)? Because you make no sense right now.

[Radacci]

Yep, I'm sure your static will appreciate you bring a class to T9



The reason I said anything about Warrior turning into to Knight also known as Paladin is because that isn't in the game right now. However, the main reason people say Thief must turn into Ninja is because it happened in Final Fantasy I (derping yet?).

This game isn't going by the standards of Final Fantasy I because Warrior isn't a class that turns into Paladin making the FFI argument invalid derp de derp. This claim that Rogue is the Thief job is not very smart. Do you read the entire discussion or just parts of it (I forgot to add derps to my last post to help you understand)? Because you make no sense right now.

why would they care, if my DPS is still high?
No i didn't read the entire thread. But anyone that says that Thief *must* turn into NIN, is wrong, or is that something you just assumed again? i haven't seen anyone make any such claims.
Also you're derp-talk is rather pathetic.

Anyway, i'm not gonna argue with you anymore, you're to blind to see any reason. You're even ignoring what Yoshi said...I'm repeating what he said, so if you're calling my argument *not very smart* then the joke's on you.

[LoLo]

why would they care, if my DPS is still high?
No i didn't read the entire thread. But anyone that says that Thief *must* turn into NIN, is wrong, or is that something you just assumed again? i haven't seen anyone make any such claims.
Also you're derp-talk is rather pathetic.

Anyway, i'm not gonna argue with you anymore, you're to blind to see any reason. You're even ignoring what Yoshi said...I'm repeating what he said, so if you're calling my argument *not very smart* then the joke's on you.

Have fun assuming the whole community will accept someone using a class on T9. BTW you DPS on coil 9 as a Mar is not a good point to bring up because Mar even as a class is suppose to tank. You aren't even using the class as it should be played. If your static is fine with that good for you. Don't expect everyone to accept alternative play styles just so that you can be right on saying that Rogue is this games Thief job. lol

I'm well aware of that *the whole community* wouldn't accept it but only 1% of the community, can even get to T9, so why should i care about what others think about it?
The wolf doesn't concern itself with the opinion of sheep, so to speak
A large part of the community can't even clear TitanHM, yet. So their arguments against ppl going as MRD to T9, is hardly valid.



I'm curious, what is this iconic image, that people were looking forward to?

You come off as a person who thinks they are clever, but in reality, not so much. If you can't understand the simple concept that people want to play a Thief Job, end game, and not a Rogue CLASS then I don't see the point in keeping this mindless discussion going. Nothing you have said is new to this thread, its been repeated every other page. Yes, the five other people on my blist have said the same stuff you have, word from word. None of what they said or you currently saying justifies denying people a Thief Job in this game. I'm certain you are only here for "entertainment" because you are oh so "bored". Yes on a Friday you are bored.

[Radacci]

Have fun assuming the whole community will accept someone using a class on T9. BTW you DPS on coil 9 as a Mar is not a good point to bring up because Mar even as a class is suppose to tank. You aren't even using the class as it should be played. If your static is fine with that good for you. Don't expect everyone to accept alternative play styles just so that you can be right on saying that Rogue is this games Thief job. lol

I'm well aware of that *the whole community* wouldn't accept it but only 1% of the community, can even get to T9, so why should i care about what others think about it?
The wolf doesn't concern itself with the opinion of sheep, so to speak
A large part of the community can't even clear TitanHM, yet. So their arguments against ppl going as MRD to T9, is hardly valid.

Which is why I used it as an example. Thief has an iconic image, that many players wanted, and were looking forward to when the possibility presented itself, myself included. Making rogue the only version of Thief in this game is a big F-U to people who've come to expect Thieves iconic imagery to be represented and playable at endgame.

I'm curious, what is this iconic image, that people were looking forward to?

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I'm curious, what is this iconic image, that people were looking forward to?

If you need to ask then your FF exposure is limited, or you aren't a fan of the role. But since you asked:



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as opposed to this



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[Radacci]

If you need to ask then your FF exposure is limited, or you aren't a fan of the role. But since you asked:



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as opposed to this



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So the reason ppl want THF in end-game...is cause of vanity?
I played FF5-14, except XI...uhm and maybe some of the earlier...i'm a bit hazy about those earlier ones
THF was never exciting, except for getting rare items (and in some cases it was the only way to get something, or half the game earlier than normal)

[Radacci]

Have fun assuming the whole community will accept someone using a class on T9. BTW you DPS on coil 9 as a Mar is not a good point to bring up because Mar even as a class is suppose to tank. You aren't even using the class as it should be played. If your static is fine with that good for you. Don't expect everyone to accept alternative play styles just so that you can be right on saying that Rogue is this games Thief job. lol



You come off as a person who thinks they are clever, but in reality, not so much. If you can't understand the simple concept that people want to play a Thief Job, end game, and not a Rogue CLASS then I don't see the point in keeping this mindless discussion going. Nothing you have said is new to this thread, its been repeated every other page. Yes, the five other people on my blist have said the same stuff you have, word from word. None of what they said or you currently saying justifies denying people a Thief Job in this game. I'm certain you are only here for "entertainment" because you are oh so "bored". Yes on a Friday you are bored.

"So it’s a little different in the sense of Ninja and Thief from the past FF series? What about the “Steal” ability that Thieves have traditionally had in FF games?

Well, since this is a stand-alone game, we don’t have to maintain all of the traditional thief roles."
There you go, i didnt even have to take Rogue to T9, to prove anything.

Like i said earlier, dont throw rocks, in glass houses...
you portrayed a rather similar image, with your derp-talk, and commenting about me being bored on friday.
And no, i don't even know what this iconic image of THF, that ppl have, is. So i dont understand why ppl want to play a THF job, over a ROG class. To me, THF steals stuff; that doesn't sound exciting for most parts of the game, and certainly not for end-game. But if you can explain to me what's interesting about Thief, then i can maybe see a reason to have it in game, and maybe even hope that they add it. But considering Yoshi's comment, it doesn't seem likely.