NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[LoLo]

They already address this in the live letter at E3, there will be no Thief job. Reason is it just doesnt fit into the world. Yoshi said it and if he was misquoted on the live letter he would have corrected the translator.

I also wanted a Thief Job cause once Rogue hits 30 they become useless cause job's are the most important thing in this game.

Just a few posts up I already explained what I took from the E3 interview. If you think differently about that, I don't mind a single bit. However I personally do not see any confirmation as to if there will or won't be a Thief Job in the game.

If you want a Thief Job in this game, I say, don't cancel it out just yet until its hard confirmation as to it not being added. Look at how they changed their tune on same sex marriage. I believe more information confirming the issue will come out.

[Legendlives]

Just a few posts up I already explained what I took from the E3 interview. If you think differently about that, I don't mind a single bit. However I personally do not see any confirmation as to if there will or won't be a Thief Job in the game.

So what your saying is you just dont buy what the developer of the game is saying. That you know better then him? That he lied to us?

He said it, no matter what your opinion of it is, he SAID it. He words, they are fact now, not just an opinion, FACT.

As it stands right now, after he said it at E3, Rogues are thief's cause of Lore.

Does that suck, IMHO yes.

[Malakhim]

Because you're not actually bringing up proof is why and using faulty arguments to make a point that nobody is inherently disagreeing with you on. In addition to being the person bringing made up information into the thread.

Lore-wise, Professor Eric commissioned a Pugilist because the Platinum Mirage(I.E. the establishment that acts as the patron/headquarters of the Pugilists Guild) deals in giving groups or individuals hired muscle for a fee. If the Gladiator's Guild was in the business of selling muscle/body guards, the professor could have easily gone there instead. Professor Eric doesn't give three iotas of a crap about the Monk's chakras opening or the Pugilists of Ul'Dah and what have you, and doesn't even conclude that his two assistants(you and the monk) could be useful in leading him to potential sites until a quest or two into the story.

If you want to get down to the nitty gritty, yes, it serves as the lead to take you from Pugilist to Monk in the strict, technical sense as created by the devs, but from a lore perspective, neither are really related.

At this point I'm not even sure what your argument even is. Are you unhappy that Yoshida made a statement that there is no Thieves Guild in the game for the reasons he established? I don't really know what else to say other than "get used to it". That's just how it is. Could THF happen? Assuming the skill set for Rogue doesn't already encompass those we think of as THF abilities/traits, then maybe, maybe not. We don't have enough information either way. But you seem hell bent on saying "I want MY thing!" to that.

[LoLo]

Yet who sends you to be Professor Eric's body guard? Gagaruna. Who is Gargaruna? The guide master of the Pugilist guide.

This is what Gargaruna saids to you when discussing the situation with Professor Eric.

#6 Gagaruna
The point is the man must needs be guarded. To that end, I sent a monk of Ala Mhigo to see to his safety, but it turns out the bloody oaf has no work ethic about him─just like an Ala Mhigan.

If Monk isn't related... how did the guide master send a monk of Ala Mhigo? Gararuna most likey has a connection with Ala Mhigan and might even be one of the people who made it out of Ala Mhigo and traveled to Uldah. In the 1.0 quest many people who survived the attack in Ala Mhigo made Uldah home. One of those very people was Minfilia and her Dad.

During the quest the professor reads the aether readings and uses the Monk to find other areas with a high level of aether.


No, I am not unhappy that there is no Thief Guide. Why? Because I want to play a Thief Job, not a Thief class. Surprisingly, I am not the only one who feels this way.

Just to be clear, I am not even mad. I am discussing the information that we currently have about Rogue class and Ninja by saying that it is still a chance that Thief can branch off of Rogue. People seem to hate that idea and I wonder why. It doesn't cheapen the Ninja Job in any way shape or form.

The professor don't beliefe in Monk power.

I didn't say he practices Monk, he uses the Monk to find high aether areas because he knows that a Monk is sensitive to large amount of it. His research involves using aetherial readings.

#13 Erik
Know that my primary endeavor is to reconstruct the military histories of old through the aetherial analysis of ancient battlegrounds.

He knows the Monk in the quest actively seeks areas like that out.

[Felis]

I didn't say he practices Monk, he uses the Monk to find high aether areas because he knows that a Monk is sensitive to large amount of it. His research involves using aetherial readings.

No
He had the theory that batlegrounds influence the aether. He studied history battlegrounds from books, send you and the other guy to the places to put a device there, let the device do it's work and then bring it back. This is all want he wanted you to do.
The professor don't used the monk to find the places, the monk used the professor to find the places.

[LoLo]

No
He had the theory that batlegrounds influence the aether. He studied history battlegrounds from books, send you and the other guy to the places to put a device there, let the device do it's work and then bring it back. This is all want he wanted you to do.
The professor don't used the monk to find the places, the monk used the professor to find the places.

I will reply this last time about anything related to Monk...... because I don't want to get off topic. I was only using Monk as a example of a lost art that is in the game to explain how Thief could turn as a job option for Rogue. Not debate the Monk job quests.

In reply to your post:
Its clear that the professor was targeting battle fields because he knew there was a large amount of aether there to research. Monks can sense and use aether and I would be hard press to believe the professor is ignorant of that. Yes, he talked down about the monk and said he doesn't believe in the teachings but thats like me saying I dont believe in meditation, but I am aware that yoga exists and uses meditation.

Quoted from the game:

#10 Widargelt
I feigned understanding. He asked much of me. Of the monkhood and the Fist. He asked of the seventh chakra.
#11 Widargelt
My answers excited him. He said they would advance his studies. I too learned from him. I am nearer the seventh chakra now.

They used each other to get what they wanted. Also the Professor is a Ala Mhigan and is aware of the monkhood.

btw battle grounds do not influence the aether. Battlegrounds just have a large amount of aether because a lot of people died there.