NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[silentwindfr]

I don't even address people that repeat the same thing over and over again. Why are they so dead set on shutting down even the thought of having a Thief Job in this game? Do they like telling people they can't ask for stuff? Do they even have the authority to say these things?

If I want to play a Clown Job I have the right to ask for it. Now lets see how many people will come at me if I ask for that. None because they will think I am not even serious, but what if I am? Let me live lol.

exept yoshida himself have already say: rogue are repents thief! and that no thief will be added... you are the people asking for something that will never happend. move over it now...

I already made a post on this a few pages back. Rogue could become Thief in exactly the same way Thaumaturge becomes Black Mage. Black Mage is also a forbidden job and you are technically breaking the law and treading the grey area between good and evil by touching black magic... If it can happen there why can't a Rogue rediscover the abilities they gave up to comply with the law?

I've said it a bunch of times before and I'll say it again: GUILDS have to comply with the law as they are a part of the city, JOBS do not as the player is (in the lore) usually one of only a handful in existence.

and one more time, it's different, thief will not explore dark magic forbidden and such... but steal people stuff! when a lot of people in Eorzea are struggling for survive! tell me what message it bring? you can steal from people that are already poor? or you plan to steal the rich of uldah? wake up, we are heroes! thief are not heroes in eorzea! they are bastard that steal people stuff! (and sometimes life) that the lore of the game... you want they change it for make you feel better, when they have already place a class they have themself called thief while the E3. (well the translator)

finally, with the rogue class, what will bring the thief? by the twelves! we already did tell you that thief have almost no iconic skill that can be used in FF14.... but you don't listen! you only say... but in FF11 it was... and we are not in FF11! all the complain can only do one thing... make the rogue change name for thief! but don't hope for a jobs thief! simply because Yoshida have always said, they will never add 2 jobs that fit the same role from one class. for make simple, since ninja is dps, thief can't be added! (since it will be dps, and support don't really exist)

[Malakhim]

Nobody's telling you to stop wanting thief. Nobody is telling you to stop asking for thief. Hell, I WANT to play as Thief. That's pretty much my main go to in EVERY single Final Fantasy(including XI) and other RPG I play where it's an option. In FFXIV I will be playing as Rogue(and to go along with your perspective) I will be "maining" Ninja, because that's what is available(I also have a hard-on for Ninja, but that's besides the point).

What I AM saying is that demanding something blindly without really looking at the facts(of which there really are none at this moment) or respecting/trusting the devs to do something interesting and/or fun with an old idea is unfair. I'd say the same thing in the countless RDM or _insert job here_ threads.

Also a protip: Based on what you say about not appreciating the Duty Finder, I take it you're a fan of building a healthy, helpful, and friendly community. Antagonizing fellow forum posters with bullish tones won't do anything to help that.

[Alberel]

and one more time, it's different, thief will not explore dark magic forbidden and such... but steal people stuff! when a lot of people in Eorzea are struggling for survive! tell me what message it bring? you can steal from people that are already poor? or you plan to steal the rich of uldah? wake up, we are heroes! thief are not heroes in eorzea! they are bastard that steal people stuff! (and sometimes life) that the lore of the game... you want they change it for make you feel better, when they have already place a class they have themself called thief while the E3. (well the translator)

finally, with the rogue class, what will bring the thief? by the twelves! we already did tell you that thief have almost no iconic skill that can be used in FF14....but you don't listen! you only say... but in FF11 it was... and we are not in FF11! all the complain can only do one thing... make the rogue change name for thief! but don't hope for a jobs thief! simply because Yoshida have always said, they will never add 2 jobs that fit the same role from one class. for make simple, since ninja is dps, thief can't be added! (since it will be dps, and support don't really exist)

Have you heard of Robin Hood? He was a thief and is widely regarded as a hero. He stole from the rich and gave to the poor and basically proved that stealing can be used for good. There's nothing to stop them implementing Thief and having the player steal from bad guys only. Just because the thieves of old in Eorzea's lore were bad guys the player doesn't automatically become a bad guy just by learning their skills. Black magic was used for great evil too yet when you become a black mage you use it for good instead of evil. The problem here is quite simply that you lack any imagination for ways the lore could still allow the player to become a Thief. There is nothing currently in the lore that would make it an impossibility.

And I already explained earlier in this thread that Thief would make a perfect support class akin to bard, stealing stats from enemies and using them to buff the party. They can control enmity to better assist the tank. They can distract targets briefly to give the healers some breathing room. Honestly just USE YOUR IMAGINATION. Very few of the jobs currently in this game are implemented the same as they were in previous incarnations of the series. Stop assuming Thief would have to be exactly like x version you saw in a previous game. If Rogue does not have Mug, Steal, Escape, Trick Attack, etc then there is PLENTY of room for a Thief job.

Use your imagination a bit...