NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Tiggy]

All this debate about rogue just being this games thief. Ridiculous. In the live letter they went to GREAT LENGTHS to make sure you understood this was not a thief. They said it was similar, but definitely not a thief. Rogue is not this games analogue to thief.

[Erudain]

So let's say SE didn't name it "rogue"....and they named it Thief

People would still be angry and complaining because thief would then be a base class and "OMG thief has to be a job, it cannot be a base class!!!"

If it feels like a thief, plays like a thief, has the traditional skills of a thief, then is a thief even if they name it burglar or robber...what's the difference? the name?
Then you care more for the name than the playstyle? They could throw you a thief healer and would be happy because is a "thief"?

When it gets to 30 and becomes a NIN..it will still have the thief playstyle...PLD still plays like GLD, DGN still plays like LCN, WHM still plays like CNJ....but then again the problem is the name? feels like a thief, plays like a thief, has thief traditional skills....but is named NIN and has 5 new skills?

[Reynhart]

All this debate about rogue just being this games thief. Ridiculous. In the live letter they went to GREAT LENGTHS to make sure you understood this was not a thief. They said it was similar, but definitely not a thief. Rogue is not this games analogue to thief.

Actually, they went to great lenghts to explain that this IS a Thief, apart from the actual name.
If it wasn't Thief at all, they wouldn't have to explain exactly why it wasn't named Thief.

[Abraxis]

Actually, they went to great lenghts to explain that this IS a Thief, apart from the actual name.
If it wasn't Thief at all, they wouldn't have to explain exactly why it wasn't named Thief.

Actually, they went to great lengths to say that they USED to be Thieves.

"They were ONCE thieves. And they, over the years, have evolved into this Rogue class, with their own guild and they'll have their own story and their own background."

Also

"They do have that Thief history. So we want to make sure that in the lore, in the story, that you'll have that feeling of, they came up from thieves and that thief....thieverism." (Yes, thieverism, it's hard to hear since Yoshida began to speak before the translator finished)

These are EXACT quotes from translator for Yoshida himself. So, it's pretty hard to imagine in any way that they'll add a Job when the Class preceding it moved on from them. That would be the worst kind of backwards progression (regression) possible. And to make sure the people that wanted just a Thief, will/should be ok with the change since they'll still have that feeling of being a Thief. And before anyone says "no they won't"...how on earth do you know!? They haven't announced ANYTHING in regards to skills or abilities other than "poisoned blades".

I understand it won't be end game viable (it might, i haven't bothered taking a "class" into Coil or anything) but that's just how it is for this PATCH. That's another thing people need to understand. This is a new Class/Job being added into a PATCH before the actual expansion to a game. How often does that happen? And yes, they are for sure adding a new Healer and Tank to the expansion, but they didn't say that would be the ONLY things they'd be adding. So, will they be adding a class that is just Thief renamed? Maybe, who knows. But it will for sure, not be called Thief.