NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Nalien]

If Gladiator and Paladin are the exact same thing, I guess you'd be OK with suggestions that they should remove Paladin and its AF/Weapons? I mean, you're hardly using those Skills, you said so yourself.

That is exactly what you're saying with regards to Thief. Why have it when it's the same as Rouge? Well, why have Paladin? Why bother having Paladin except for just the name?

Again, the first thing Yoshida set out to do with XIV was introduce Jobs. Thief is a Job. If we can have Paladin instead of just Gladiator, we should be able to have Thief instead of just Rouge. It's the exact same thing.

[Reynhart]

If Gladiator and Paladin are the exact same thing, I guess you'd be OK with suggestions that they should remove Paladin and its AF/Weapons?

So now, PLD plays differently wether they have a relic or not ?!
Again you're clearly proving that you don't care about mechanics.

What I'm saying is that Rogue will play exactly like Thief, and Ninja, evolving from Rogue will play exactly like it, with additionnal skills from Ninja. And you complain because you can play as more than a Thief even if they give everything the Thief has ? It's not like they remove staple skills from Thief, jobs are additional skills.

The first thing Yoshida did was introducing jobs above what already existed. You should be happy, because considering what Yoshida is doing now, Warrior may have been a class evolving into Paladin, like in FF I.

Still, you haven't told me what you want for a real Thief.

[Bigpurpleharness]

Still, you haven't told me what you want for a real Thief.

You may want to read the thread though. A job stone (And benefits/stats that come with it), the iconic Thief AF and abilities, the associated lore like every other job, I mean, there's been tons. I'm not sure what to tell you if you haven't caught that. :\

EDIT: I suppose instead I should just ask, you DO know all of the differences between classes and jobs right? Like, the pretty significant stat bonuses? The fact that the job quests go past 30? How AF is introduced and ties into previous FF titles? How iconic abilities that FF fans would want are added in as job abilities (Regen, Flare, etc)? I mean, there are a lot. If you've ever wondered why you never see anyone take a class to endgame, there's plenty of reading on the subject.