NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Nalien]

Actually, almost everyone that facepalms at the idea of implementing RNG as a second job off of ARC, it gets brought up *all the time* that ARC is already RNG. The 2 trademark abilities that RNG has had are Barrage and Aim. ARC explicitly *gets* Barrage and Hawk's Eye is Aim (short duration, increased damage, cannot miss).

You and I must have visited some very different "New Job suggestions" threads... Archer => Ranger is something I've seen almost unanimously agreed upon in such threads.

Consider this: the only possible role for THF to fill within the confines of the trinity is DPS (Support isn't a role, it's a subrole; with the hypothetical hybrid role, how does THF get interpreted as either healer *or* tank without stretching the entire theme to the point of incredulity?). NIN is already a DPS and jobs only bring 5 abilities so any other DPS built off of ROG would play just like NIN (because NIN already plays like ROG with a slight modification).

Adding THF to ROG as a second job is basically wasted development resources because it's not *adding* anything to the game: THF would still play *just* like NIN with a few *tiny* differences (you now use Steal to get a job specific resource to fuel special attacks instead of using mudras). The only major difference would be that it's called THF instead of NIN and has a different look (90+% of a class/job's functionality is derived from the class, not the job).

2 DPS roles coming off 1 Class is hardly the end of the world, and it would be no more a waste of resources than all Jobs are already. Again, Yoshida specifically went about implementing Jobs the moment he took over XIV. Adding the Jobs was his call, he could have just left Classes the same and given them what are now Job abilities (in fact, most of them were regular Class abilities at launch, weren't they?).

No, he specifically set out to add Jobs for the sole reason of adding Jobs, because apparently that matters to Final Fantasy. Thief is a Job, not a Class, because Classes are worthless.

If you honestly think that THF can coexist with NIN as a ROG job, come up with some way for it to coexist rather than co-opt it.

Fairly sure I already have, not that such a thing matters until we actually know more about Rouge and Ninjas skill sets.

Oh seriously? I was pretty sure my conjurer, archer and lancer kept learning skills up to level 50, and that Dragoon, Bard and White Mage only gave me 5 extra skills and a couple traits....

Oh, you play Lancer at level 50 do you?

Seriously, how dense can people be that they cannot comprehend this simple point? You do not play Lancer at Lv50. You play Dragoon. Yes it has Lancers skills still, but that doesn't mean you're playing Lancer. You specifically equip an item to play Dragoon and 30 and you never unequip it.

Jesus Christ, it's like arguing with a wall...