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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoLo View Post
    Actually no, Archers used to be Bards but now that type of combat is pretty much gone until you find a old Bard who decides to teach you the way of the Bard.
    That's. . .not how the game describes it at all. A subset of Archers, experiencing the horrors of war, turned to song to ease their turmoil and strengthen their allies. After the war, some of them became wandering minstrels, eventually stripping their songs of all their truth and power. The Moogles, fearing the loss of the true power of song among mankind, labored to save the Souls of the Bards to be entrusted to those they deemed worthy.

    But, then, I don't know why I'm telling you this, since you have me blocked for some reason. . .
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    Shichi Mamura
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    If possible someone who is willing to engage in actual conversation explain what the dex trait datamine information mean when it comes to additional classes possibly being branched off from Rogue?
    I don't think it'll come off Rogue because it's low level traits (8/12/16?) as jobs don't start until 30. We just assumed that it'll pertain to Rogue because of all the other datamined skills that are run speed/jump landing/poisons. It could very easily be the traits for Musketeer but it's a little less likely given that we haven't found any other traits that would go to MSK.

    If anything it could be like how ACN is now. All traits are INT+ but SCH is a healer with doesn't get anything from INT.
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Discussing possible jobs that branch off of the Rogue class is actually very much on topic and is not griefing. A Thief job seems to fit pretty well if it branched off from Rogue.

    If you do not want to discuss possible jobs then you don't need to address posts that are related to it. No need to call names and become angry.

    You said that no one cares if I'm mad, however did you forget that you asked if I am unhappy? All I did was answer your question.

    When I said there is no confirmation that Thief = Rogue, I was told that in the E3 interview Yoshi P said that. I then said that the actual quote is that "Rogue evolved from Thieves" not "Rogue is Thief." They did not provide actual facts so I replied with the facts.
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    Last edited by LoLo; 06-20-2014 at 08:54 AM.

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    Shichi Mamura
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    I wonder how Ninjustu will be. Wonder if it'll have a variety of status effects like target defense down 5%, self-strength up by 5% or something. Maybe it'll be like a melee Bard of sorts? 2.4 really can't come soon enough.
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I wonder how Ninjustu will be. Wonder if it'll have a variety of status effects like target defense down 5%, self-strength up by 5% or something. Maybe it'll be like a melee Bard of sorts? 2.4 really can't come soon enough.
    outside of combat it's most likely going to have scout duties, in dungeons maybe they can scout ahead to disarm traps or trigger mobs and run away..etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    outside of combat it's most likely going to have scout duties, in dungeons maybe they can scout ahead to disarm traps or trigger mobs and run away..etc.
    I think that might be slightly imbalanced because that would make them mandatory for some dungeons? Unless they traps are not that severe (do like 1500 damage if taken alone, 250 if taken with all 4)? Probably thinking too high, going disappoint myself with these wild dreams
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I think that might be slightly imbalanced because that would make them mandatory for some dungeons? Unless they traps are not that severe (do like 1500 damage if taken alone, 250 if taken with all 4)? Probably thinking too high, going disappoint myself with these wild dreams
    i believe reading yoshi said they wanted to have a scout role in the party, whether that's referring to combat or non-combat i'm not certain. But i would seriously love it if it's non combat, this game need variety in dungeon raids.
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    i believe reading yoshi said they wanted to have a scout role in the party, whether that's referring to combat or non-combat i'm not certain. But i would seriously love it if it's non combat, this game need variety in dungeon raids.
    I think scouting when it comes to PVP because as of right now I don't see the purpose of scouting in Duty Finder Dungeons. But I could be wrong.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    The best way to win an argument !
    Block everybody that says otherwise
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    I wonder if ninja will need to have ninja tools to cast spells like they did in 11.
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