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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logistical View Post
    TIL: Using an available in game item meant to assist in raising your damage/healing is cheating. Don't forget those X-Ethers either.

    On topic. Our monk is around 445ish at 102. We have him hitting towers, and backup for mines if one of our mine runners have Field. So he could probably be a little higher otherwise.
    Oh nice. What does he have aiding him? Is Selene present? X-potions? Does he use fracture whole fight, only on avatar b4 movin to dread, or ignore it all together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    Oh nice. What does he have aiding him? Is Selene present? X-potions? Does he use fracture whole fight, only on avatar b4 movin to dread, or ignore it all together?
    Our SCH uses Eos, I use 1 X-Potion during the fight (because we don't need more). I don't cast the LB (our DRG does), and I always switch to the dreadnaught (and make sure to use Mercy Stroke on each of them). Fracture is useless on every fight - it's DPS neutral as an ability and consumes insane amounts of TP. Especially in a fight where TP management is important, it's no bueno. I also don't have a second MNK spamming DK for me to use BS. i103 atm, i110 weapon.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    Also, this is the maximum, not average. Of course it'd be much higher since they specifically arrange a team comp and strategy to achieve it.
    Is this how people generally talk about DPS figures? Because that seems pointless if so. Unless it's 512 for the duration it doesn't really mean anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    Is this how people generally talk about DPS figures? Because that seems pointless if so. Unless it's 512 for the duration it doesn't really mean anything.
    No, I'm just saying that guy who replied and said monk averaging 500 is just.... yeah unrealistic. They specifically arrange a team comp and strategy to get above 500, not something you should expect from every monks.

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    I see. I just read the thread title, figured some monks can do 450 for the entire fight and was wondering how on Earth our group is doing so much less.

    I'd be far more interested in the average for the whole fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    I see. I just read the thread title, figured some monks can do 450 for the entire fight and was wondering how on Earth our group is doing so much less.

    I'd be far more interested in the average for the whole fight.
    450 isn't impossible to achieve. And those numbers are average for the whole fight. What I mean by average is average between several monks. :P People can achieve that, as well as that 512. You know it's the full fight cause there's the boss taking 1mil damage with 1 death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    I see. I just read the thread title, figured some monks can do 450 for the entire fight and was wondering how on Earth our group is doing so much less.

    I'd be far more interested in the average for the whole fight.
    Monks can hit 450 for the whole fight easily if you have the gear. 480s also doable. 500-510+ will probably require selene and bards singing tp song, no mechanics, no lb and probably another monk doing dragon kick.
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    Last edited by rickyguo; 06-12-2014 at 10:42 AM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanix View Post
    Our SCH uses Eos, I use 1 X-Potion during the fight (because we don't need more). I don't cast the LB (our DRG does), and I always switch to the dreadnaught (and make sure to use Mercy Stroke on each of them). Fracture is useless on every fight - it's DPS neutral as an ability and consumes insane amounts of TP. Especially in a fight where TP management is important, it's no bueno. I also don't have a second MNK spamming DK for me to use BS. i103 atm, i110 weapon.
    Oh ok cool. I've been wondering about fracture and if it was really helping or hindering my dps. Since you're the second mnk posting around 445 and saying don't use it I'll try leaving it out tomorrow night. And yea ive been making sure to use Mercy Stroke as well. I think I'll try one X-Potion after my PB opener and one later in the fight. We dont need use potions at all anymore, but for the sake of that dps pride I'll take the drugs lol xD. Hopefully with the drop of fracture, the use of x-potions, and other tips i'll reach near 450. Thanks for the info.

    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    I see. I just read the thread title, figured some monks can do 450 for the entire fight and was wondering how on Earth our group is doing so much less.

    I'd be far more interested in the average for the whole fight.
    Yes monks can do 450 for the full encounter. Every figure discussed has been full encounter, even the 500. It's just that the group specifically tailored conditions for that mnk to reach 500 for that full encounter. My 420 is full encounter and what I've been hitting regularly given the duty of a mnk's normal rotation while not popping potions/food, not having selene, etc.
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    Last edited by Kuroyasha; 06-12-2014 at 11:39 AM.

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    bring another monk as your Dragon Kick debuffer. bootshine all day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    Those numbers are probably from 1 or a few of these things:
    _ HA weapon.
    _ Soldiery pants at least. It's a direct upgrade of myth pants.
    _ HA or upgraded soldiery gear where you have i90.
    _ Not handling a single mechanics in t8. I know a guy was bragging in one of my LS the other day and I was laughing at it cause he just DPS...
    For the gears you have, 420 is pretty good imo, depending on how much paeon you're getting from the bard and how many mechanics you're handling.

    I'm interested to see a proof of average 500.
    There isnt any because it does not happen. I can see someone peaking at 500 during a fight but i highly doubt that more then one or two people even get that DPS let alone get it every time.
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