Solutions to stop speedrunning

[Hayward]

I'm about to say something that is heretical: It is well past time for SE to take positive steps to finally blunt the influence of speedrunners. It is obvious that putting obstacles like Lantern Oil or making enemies drop small amounts of gil is not enough to discourage ADHD-addled players who want to pull the entire area and just fight bosses. The current Animus system has had a knock-on effect that has made this worse. As a tank, I have no use for this and will not entertain the thought in any dungeon.

One possible solution that comes to mind is something SE will have to swallow hard on: allowing non-boss enemies to drop Mythology tomestones (1 or 2 per kill, maybe) with a chance to drop a random Atma piece. I know the devs want to enforce some kind of rarity but Myth gear is no longer high-tier armor and loosening the grip on the currency can do no harm. I'd also say that no player would be foolish enough to pass up the possibility of 50-100 extra Myths simply for the purpose of cutting 3 minutes off their time.

Another idea would be to award bonus tomestones (Mythology and Soldiery) at the end of the duty, depending on the party's kill ratio. Not only would this give an incentive to not skip enemies, it would give an incentive to clear the room if the bonus for 100% kills is 50% extra Myths and Soldieries.

[Cap75]

How does other people doing speed runs in any way effect your game? Who cares what other people want to do. If you don't want to SR then don't.

[Hayward]

How does other people doing speed runs in any way effect your game? Who cares what other people want to do. If you don't want to SR then don't.

If this weren't such a pervasive trend, I'd take no notice of it. However, tanks are either assuming DF dungeon runs are speedruns and taking other party members unprepared or other players are hounding and cajoling tanks into doing something they're not comfortable doing in the least. That seems to qualify as a problem that should be called out.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Or they can just make the mobs hit harder than wet noodles.

[Hayward]

Or they can just make the mobs hit harder than wet noodles.

I want to stay away from negative steps, though. Stronger enemies between bosses would be interesting for those who claim they want a challenge.

[AmyNeudaiz]

I want to stay away from negative steps, though. Stronger enemies between bosses would be interesting for those who claim they want a challenge.

I'm not saying something harsh but when you can grab all the mobs from the start to the first boss with little effort.... You have an issue. Even a 15% buff would solve this.

[Hayward]

I'm not saying something harsh but when you can grab all the mobs from the start to the first boss with little effort.... You have an issue. Even a 15% buff would solve this.

I see what you're saying and I wouldn't be surprised to see SE go that route. I'd just like for them to take some more positive actions beforehand.

[Lunavi]

I'm not saying something harsh but when you can grab all the mobs from the start to the first boss with little effort.... You have an issue. Even a 15% buff would solve this.

The issue is that the instances are tuned for iLvl50-60 while everyone and their mother runs around in iLvl 90-100. That is not a dungeon error but a design error that forces us to run these easy dungeons over and over. At the ilvl most players are the proper farm content would be t1-5 coil. I would propose making those more rewarding than running HM Brayflox.

[Garlyle]

The issue is that the instances are tuned for iLvl50-60 while everyone and their mother runs around in iLvl 90-100. That is not a dungeon error but a design error that forces us to run these easy dungeons over and over. At the ilvl most players are the proper farm content would be t1-5 coil. I would propose making those more rewarding than running HM Brayflox.

Personally, this is why I want to see an iLvl Sync enabled. The problem of people being overgeared for content isn't going to go away - it's only going to aggravate, actually. And while I can see this being okay to an extent, especially as Square has stated they want earlier content to become 'easier', it's making plenty of locations easier than things you did back before level 50.

[ticdup]

Or they can just make the mobs hit harder than wet noodles.

The problem of having i55 dungeons inhabited by i90 players trying to farm soldiery for their i100 gear or myth for their i100 weapon. Simply, speed-running is enabled by the low ilvl of the dungeons.