Question on Scholar's pet

[Puwarh]

I'm playing a Summoner so I have a chance to do some healing form time to time with Scholar.

What I want to ask is when we will use Selene? Normally I would call for Eos, like, all the time, bind her skills to macro and get going. Never have a chance to think of Selene.

I think my heal gonna be a bit low since I don't put any point in Mind. Anyway I still manage to keep the tank alive for many dungeon (excepted Brayflox's speed run) any suggestion to make my Scholar better?

PS. How can you guy going on healing all the time? For me it's quite stressful

[fanservice]

What I want to ask is when we will use Selene? Normally I would call for Eos, like, all the time, bind her skills to macro and get going. Never have a chance to think of Selene.

When you/your group can trivialize the amount of damage taken.
When literally no one else in your group can be trusted to stop a threatening cast.

I think my heal gonna be a bit low since I don't put any point in Mind. Anyway I still manage to keep the tank alive for many dungeon (excepted Brayflox's speed run) any suggestion to make my Scholar better?

-Stack crit
-Know what's coming beforehand (lustrate for things you didn't see coming).
-Get cleric stance and pretend you're a summoner if a group is good enough to not need healing for ~10 seconds so you can DOT bane shadowflare. Stacking crit for adloquium helps you do this more.

PS. How can you guy going on healing all the time? For me it's quite stressful

I find the constant mental activity of paying attention, and pre planning what I'm going to do in what order to deal with a situation, and executing it perfectly relaxing.

I've even found keeping a MT getting beat by two dreads alive, the OT getting beat by every extra mob except one alive, and the WHM getting beat by the mob the OT missed alive all at once fun (even the WHM knew I saved that T4). Some would call that stressful. It felt like a flowchart to me.

Red bull and HP bar OCD also helps.

[Bixillarla]

I find healing relaxing, I have no problems doing run after run healing. If you get stressed out everytime you heal then healing may not be for you.

[Seryl199]

I use eos whenever I know that the party won't be taking large amounts of damage, or if I'm playing with a skilled or overgeared whm that I trust to patch up the raid. Think of Selene as a 10% buff to the party's damage. Managing her cooldowns takes a bit of practice, but once you r got it down, a solid party will appreciate the damage boost.

In regards to stress, it's the nature of the beast. Try to keep a healing priority for when things get messy. Do your best to follow it and don't panic. Not healing at all is worse than sloppy healing. The hardest fights for me to keep focused in are fights that I don't know well yet. With practice, you learn to anticipate moves with adloquium/succor, and the strain becomes less for everyone. Keep at it, and you should find your groove for each fight.

And a quick tip for those brayflox speed runs, don't be afraid to spam adloquium, especially on the first pull. You'll need to be a bit cautious of the mp drain, but energy drain and aetherflow management make it a breeze. Scholar performs best by maintaining the tanks hp, compared to whm that excels at replenishing the tanks hp. It's a subtle nuance, but it's an important one.

[Hivernica]

I use Selene when I know the other healer. If I don't know them or I'm healing with them for the first time, I use Eos. If the other healer is slacking I use Eos. Other than that I always use Selene. When I'm new to something I use Eos because Whispering Dawn and her buffs can prove quite useful in situations I've never seen before and am not prepared to face.

[Kitru]

When you/your group can trivialize the amount of damage taken.
When literally no one else in your group can be trusted to stop a threatening cast.

Eos and Selene both provide the exact same healing with Embrace so the only consideration you really have to make about Eos v. Selene is whether you need the AoE healing that Eos provides (Eos also brings the 2 CDs, but those are of marginal importance in picking your fairy). If you need AoE healing, bring Eos. If you don't, bring Selene.

Think of Selene as a 10% buff to the party's damage. Managing her cooldowns takes a bit of practice, but once you r got it down, a solid party will appreciate the damage boost.

The speed buffs Eos provides amount to a 4-5% reduction in cast time/GCD, and they only have 50% uptime (30 every 60 and they're mutually exclusive). Selene is nowhere *near* a 10% buff to total damage. She's a 2-3% increase at best. She's not even all that useful for burst DPS because she can only buff either DoW or DoM at one time so half of your group is getting the buff while the other have isn't.

Selene's increase to party damage is only useful/valuable when the more numerically powerful tools that Eos brings are going to be wasted. You could quite easily never use Selene, and it's doubtful that anyone would ever notice specifically because her buffs are so small.

Also, you really don't need to micromanage Selene unless you're specifically trying to get her to use her interrupt at a specific moment (not really a major use for her, in my experience since it's on a 1 min CD). Her AI has her keeping one of the two up at all times, and the healing AI is perfectly fine (if Eos isn't healing someone, it's because their hp is above 90% and whatever heal you're throwing at them is already likely to be wasted; I have yet to see a situation where macroing was actually going to help because any time I need to have Eos spam into a single target with me, her AI already has her doing so; pre-2.1, when the fairies wouldn't use Embrace on their own while on Obey, sure, but, now that they'll use Embrace on their own no matter what, no real point).

[Seryl199]

Yep you're correct. I did overstate Selene's buffing ability (making forum posts at 5 in the morning does that). She likely won't be the make or break for a dps check, but it's not as if using Selene will decrease your party's dps. There's no reason to dismiss Selene as useless, just as there is no reason to say her buff is critical. If you find eos' cooldowns aren't of much use, may as well use Selene to burn a little faster.

[givemeraptors]

I never use Eos anymore. WHM AoE capabilities are far superior. Fey Illumination every 2 minutes is not comparable imo to constant uptime of Fey Glow/Fey Light (since your party will always have at least 1 tank and 1 healer and 95% of the time 2 tanks and 2 healers someone will always benefit).

Also I love getting the crit spell speed buff while Fey Glow is active. Knocks a giant chunk off of cast time.

[fanservice]

Eos and Selene both provide the exact same healing with Embrace so the only consideration you really have to make about Eos v. Selene is whether you need the AoE healing that Eos provides (Eos also brings the 2 CDs, but those are of marginal importance in picking your fairy). If you need AoE healing, bring Eos. If you don't, bring Selene.

I know. That's why I said that... not sure why you quoted me as if I needed to be corrected.
There is also the silence you've failed to mention for what it's worth.

I never use Eos anymore. WHM AoE capabilities are far superior.

That's not an excuse.
Hots stack.
WHMs need to spend MP.
Our fairy doesn't.

Fey Illumination every 2 minutes is not comparable imo to constant uptime of Fey Glow/Fey Light (since your party will always have at least 1 tank and 1 healer and 95% of the time 2 tanks and 2 healers someone will always benefit).

That's just your opinion.
Mine is that increasing the healing done by you, your fairy, and the nearby WHM (or SCH, and their Eos, who could use their fey illumination after) in full parities can take the pressure off of an intense damage period, like T1 which is still absurd levels of boss damage to a tank.

[Kitru]

I know. That's why I said that... not sure why you quoted me as if I needed to be corrected.

You were talking about trivializing the healing of the piece of content. It's not about trivializing the healing because the reason you use Eos is for the AoE healing. If you have to AoE heal, bring Eos. If you don't, even if it's something where you have to focus on healing, bring Selene because you're not reducing your ST healing effectiveness by doing so (the spell speed buff provide the same benefit over time as the +healing buff).

That *is* correcting you because you're acting as if you should bring Eos to content where you have to focus ST heal when you'd, honestly, be better off with Selene.