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    Deneb Algiedi
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    When gearing up a WHM, most players stack DET or spell speed as their secondary stats. These provide you with more consistent healing without the risk of overhealing that stacking crit on your equipment causes. The meta has shifted recently in favor of Determination since those produce slightly stronger heals while spellspeed is useful but also is less mp-efficient (requiring better mp management). I can't say whether this will hold once 2.3 and the battlegrounds pvp holds up, so feel free to experiment. I personally use a combination of DET and crit and it has worked out for me.

    Anyway, you will want to mix and match your gear to focus on 1 or 2 of those secondary stats. Build up Myth and CT until you can replace the CT with allagan. The Vortex ring of healing from garuda extreme is also something to work towards as a whm. Also from the soldiery sections, consider the daystar accessories and gloves for bis.
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    I have read into the determination on gear for heals stuff and have decided to go that way for sure. Would you recommend melded accessories for this or just straight myth and allagan? Farming both will be easy since I have different options for gaining these.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Jon Bigwood
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    Hi, if you can craft or have enough gil to spend, the melded HQ Astral accesories are very good. You can meld VIT and DET, for example, I obtained two pieces. They will also serve for other jobs, like the BLM if you decide to level it.

    I have the sensation that eventually you end leveling all classes. Since you need a cross-class skill, you level to 26 or 34 or whatever, and then once there one day you finally level to 50.

    It happened to me with WHM. Once WHM you want swifcast, and you end leveling up the THM and finally BLM. But then you want some cross-class from archer and probably you end leveling the BRD, etc.
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    Last edited by JonBigwood; 06-27-2014 at 07:14 PM.

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    LOL yep, PLD, BLM, DRG, BRD all fiddy, soon WHM. For WHM I wanted to get eye for an eye, so looks like I need ACN to 34, but heck, why stop there, choose either SMN or SCH to take to 50....lol it's never ending. Luckily I have been able to cross some gear between them here and there.

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    Alyssin Kiger
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    I remember when I fell in love with healing. Playing DPS before and then you get tired of waiting for things and just being another face in the crowd. You become meaningful. I love seeing the green numbers pop up as players lives rely on me. I originally was a White Mage. Upon my return here I decided to go MNK because I do love the class so I started over from scratch and when I finished MNK went to leveling my WHM at 34 I decided I wanted to be a Scholar and I haven't looked back. I'll make 50 SCH today and I can't wait for healing end game content.
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    Yea, SCH looks pretty dang fun. Not sure if I want two heals classes though, but why not...I have three DPS classes already. Decisions...decisions.
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    If u need a 2nd i100 ring and can't get it in coil try going for the pvp i100 ring lol
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    Olwen Mercier
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    I was in a similar situation as you when I started healing in this game. I absolutely LOATHED healing in XI, my first party where I was delegated to main heals in XI was a really bad experience (RDM level 30ish in yuhtunga mandy party). I wanted to support/DD, not be heals (and haste/refresh) only. Immediately went to DNC after that horrid experience and didn't look back until I had level 75 dancer (I started XI in '07 or '08).

    That said, in other games I always liked healing and support, as well as attacking. Which is why RDM was my go-to at first, jack of all trades and all. (eventually got both RDM and DNC to 99 though, a couple years after aby came out).

    I chose bard when I started XIV, closest thing to support in the game lol. I was being pressured by a couple friends to go WHM, but I wouldn't hear it. Healing in XI soured any potential for me to try healing in XIV. Eventually after I beat the story and all and watched some WHMs do their thing in dungeons, I made an alt character. Leveled WHM on her some to see how it is. I got her to 50 and then promptly leveled it on my main (it's my main job now lol).

    Also the base class is what levels up, so if you level SCH to 50, you will have 50 SMN as well.
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    Last edited by File2ish; 06-28-2014 at 07:03 AM. Reason: additional stuffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    Also the base class is what levels up, so if you level SCH to 50, you will have 50 SMN as well.
    Wait,...wot? Seriously. So if I decided to lvl either SMN or SCH, depending on which, the other would gain lvl's as well? I would have to have the soulstone unlocked I would imagine. I know that when you level the job, the base get's the exp as that is how it reads in the logs, but I had no idea it worked like that for ACN (SMN,SCH). That kinda makes it more enticing to do so.

    So WHM hit fiddy over the weekend and I am comfortable with the job. The hardest healing I have had to do as of yet was Aurum Vale. That got pretty intense at times. My feat in there was on coincounter, seeing as he/she is pretty easy in terms of scripted moves, both DPS ate it a couple times. Me and a friend tank handled it well. I was able to get them up, twice each lol, and we continued for the win. Holy in there is awesome as well.

    I finished the day off with a CT run just to see how it is. It is definitely different from a heals perspective. A lot of stuff going on in there. Hardest part there was KB. Keeping regens up is the key I think for dealing with the electricity. Medica two is nice there for the added regen. I am pretty excited to get WHM into some coils, Ultima ex, and primal runs. Just need to gear up a bit.

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    Deneb Algiedi
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Sorry for the long time since the post. Anyway, If you are stacking Determination, you will eventually want to build towards the Allagan set. The Astral Ring is i70 and you can stack enough materia (refer to comments for materia caps) in to it to turn it exceed an i90. Keep in mind materia is fairly expensive right now with the Novus, so you may buy either the daystar and get the garuda ex rings before you can afford it.

    As an Arcanist 30, you will qualify for both SCH and SMN (since you have both THM and CNJ at 50). The biggest issue is that it is difficult to min/max both since they share a base class and thus, attribute stats. So you will see ACN with 30 points in INT, ACN with 30 pts in MND, and those split 15INT/15MND. It all depends on personal preference for that. Just know that in terms of return, INT gives more damage to SMN than MND gives to SCH heals (approx. 50 more hp healed for 30 MND).

    Aurum Vale is pretty brutal on the healers, but I'm glad to see you managed to clear it. You can probably handle most dungeons up to Ampador Keep that way.

    CT is seriously a pile of fun. I'm glad you managed so well with it.
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    Last edited by Anova; 07-02-2014 at 02:18 AM.

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