Thread: 2.3 Frontline What do we know?

Originally Posted by Ragecake

Speak for yourself! I would pvp because it's fun!

Of course there needs to be progression in pve: it's a pve oriented game.

I PvP because it's fun as well, but part of that fun is making tangible progress on a gear treadmill. It gives me something to look forward to at the end of a match, that my time spent there is not only fun in the moment but there's a long term purpose behind it. You can't deny that the majority of MMOs on the market offer gear as a source of progression for both PvE and PvP because that's just how games are designed. And frankly I'm getting wearisome of the notion that "FFXIV is just different! It's a PvP-oriented game so there's no need to invest time in making progression for PvP!" It's ridiculous that anyone would hold the position that we should offer less content in an MMO. I'm all for making PvP accessible to all, but not at the cost of removing progression from the equation entirely!

Originally Posted by Ragecake

It'll more than likely be useful in future arenas and battlegrounds.

You may not be tired of their mantra "Please look forward to it!" but I am sick of it because it's a lame-ass attempt to dodge the community's concerns and not be held accountable for piss-poor implementation.