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  1. #41
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    TokyieRage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitkatRoll View Post
    i will enjoy myself and im glad morale doesnt work, i actually dont give a fuck that ur rank 40 but then say thanks to ur win traders partners cause of that they canceled morale dont u see? are u f blind?
    wut

    /10char
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  2. #42
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    K'atya Jhamei
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    If SE has made it so that morale is not factored into Frontlines, then I would hope that they plan to address the community and explain what purpose they see for PvP gear is and why bother earning wolf marks from here on out.
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  3. #43
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    Some of you people really don't get it, you think a large scale pvp was ever meant to(or could ever) be more competitive than an arena type setup? This was always going to be accessible for everyone to try and i'm glad they're equalizing gear for it, also if you do pvp just for x gear reward you're doing it wrong.
    On another note i have 2 main gripes with this
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I mean, obviously it's Maelstrom v Twin Adder v Immortal Flames, but doesn't that royally suck if your friends are in a different Grand Company? I
    Yes it does, and while they still haven't confirmed whether or not you will only be able to fight for the gc you're aligned to or if they would make any adjustments to alignment system, either way it just should NOT be restricted they should make you fight for random x team regardless of alignment...
    Then there's the issue of there being no class restrictions, i really hope they have something to balance this because i think anyone who pvped a bit knows about how imbalanced classes are, and we might just see same class stacking... really hope not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    EDIT: Apparently Morale has no influence in Frontlines, and the iLv is capped at 80... Now I'm disappointed... I see what he meant by "Frontlines will be a good place for players to practice for real PvP", back when he said that I said I feared he meant Wolves Den is "real" PvP.
    *Edit: Nvm, found it*
    And yes again, if you were expecting large scale pvp to ever be meant to be more competitive than arena small party death match, i dunno what you were thinking. There's also nothing inherently wrong with Wolves den, it's fun when you have teams who know what they're doing.
    There's just a bit of balancing issues,which should be coming or i can't see frontlines as anything more than a big mess, and the fact that most of the population isn't decently geared, which frontlines should help with, would be awesome if they added some ladder competition to it.
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    Last edited by Pibz; 06-13-2014 at 06:23 AM.

  4. #44
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    Omg lol morale might not be factored into frontlines?!
    If it's capped at i80, then it all matters on skill and knowledge of the arena.
    Good choice SE good choice.
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  5. #45
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    not using morale stats in a pvp enviroment is like the old guy telling link : "its dangerous to go alone, take this ... well actually you dont need this.. fck it use the boomerang dude"...

    /ZeldaReference
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  6. #46
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    Epistane Havoc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Omg lol morale might not be factored into frontlines?!
    If it's capped at i80, then it all matters on skill and knowledge of the arena.
    Good choice SE good choice.
    Well yeah, experienced/good PvPers will still be at an advantage, especially if you form an 8 man group of good pvpers in the same GC. Also if if PvP skills come into play, then higher ranks will still have that too. Idk I was really upset at first, but meh, you are right, all skill now I suppose

    BUT what about missing 4th stat due to no morale and melds, wonder how that's gonna work
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistane View Post
    especially if you form an 8 man group of good pvpers in the same GC.
    Am i the only one who sees how bad it will be if you can only play for your own gc??(we don't know yet though)
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pibz View Post
    Am i the only one who sees how bad it will be if you can only play for your own gc??(we don't know yet though)
    I mean I see it too bro. List of things:

    1. No morale in frontlines
    2. PvP gear missing a 4th stat in frontlines
    3. GC

    Hmm what else..
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistane View Post
    I mean I see it too bro. List of things:

    1. No morale in frontlines
    2. PvP gear missing a 4th stat in frontlines
    3. GC

    Hmm what else..
    I was referring specifically to the possibility(seems highly likely at this point) of people being only able to play for the gc they're aligned to as opposed to them being just teams to which players are assigned randomly to create better queue times and no restriction of with who you play with.

    As for the morale thing, meh if it means there won't be completely useless people using i55 pvp gear as there are at the moment in wolves den i welcome it lol.
    Though i hope they will at some point implement something like a pvp ladder and i bet that's the point: Frontlines as "pvp lvling up" and wolves den(maybe other arena formats in the future too) as the more competitive and punishing side of pvp.

    As for the stats thing we have no indication how it will work, keep in mind it will most likely be a different system from level syncing and won't work the same.
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    Last edited by Pibz; 06-13-2014 at 06:49 AM.

  10. #50
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    K'atya Jhamei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pibz View Post
    Though i hope they will at some point implement something like a pvp ladder and i bet that's the point: Frontlines as "pvp lvling up" and wolves den(maybe other arena formats in the future too) as the more competitive and punishing side of pvp.
    I could almost deal with losing the morale stat in Frontlines if they implemented a ladder...Dear Rhalgr, one can only hope...
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