Thread: 2.3 Frontline What do we know?

Losing Morale gear is the worst thing that has happened to pvp. It basically says to the pvp fan base "Hey, we know we gave you cool armor instead of updated arenas. We know we teased the direction of pvp was to include progression so we added 10 more ranks and cool new gear, instead of updated arenas. We know the queue times are horrible because people are bored of playing 4v4 in just one arena. We're patching in everyone can have pvp abilities to bring new players to pvp, hopfully they understand that it's only one arena and no variety. We made it a huge grind so that way most of you can enjoy just one single arena. We are planning to now introduce, finally, an awesome way to pvp. We only allow pvp gear in wolves den, but we know you'll still play it because its one arena. We love how queues times will be longer for wolves den because theres only one arena and new pvp elsewhere."

Seems good but let me queue/play with people from other GCs please. PVP players are rare enough, don't divide them by GC.

Or let me switch grand company one time without losing my rank, thanks!

We are upset because is a punch in our faces.
It's like a FC who clear T9 during months, and when a new content is released, SE say "Hey, you can't use your high allagan gear in the new high end content because we want a balance between new players and hardcores".

I gonna do pvp i love it, but i feel i wasted my time grinding pvp gear

Does anyone here actually play PvP for the reason that PvP is fun?

I do think PvP is fun. Just like those that do Coil T9 think it's fun. But to remove the reward for working on it is f'd up.

That's why we're (people who have same opinion as me) mad. The playerbase that actually enjoyed PvP and played it for fun gets their reward removed, while players that didn't enjoy PvP are left unscathed. I'd even argue that PvPers gearing up for Frontlines were more excited about it, and thus it hurts even more. Now I do know there is a group of people who didn't find wolves den fun but like pvp so were waiting on Frontlines. But that group surely has to be very aware that they would be undergeared come frontlines and were preparing to grind through the initial gearing.

I agree with Rappa 100%

The PvP we have now isn't the same PvP i'm used to, so I do have a harder time understanding the reasoning behind the complaints. The PvP I am used to generally rewards skill and knowledge, gear usually doesn't ever factor into the system. The rewards were the satisfaction of defeating your opponent and some PvP EXP that gave your a rank that did nothing more then change the symbol beside your name. From what it looks like to me is that Frontlines allows for more people to enter PvP without having to deal with the progression system that was quite punishing to new players (which I would think is part of the problem with the very long queue times and lack of interest by newer people).

I'm sure there will be a Frontlines that allows you to use your PvP gear against other players with equal or better PvP gear later on but let newer players join in the fun and have an entry into PvP so you guys have more people to PvP and your queue times aren't so horrible. This is basically the Crystal Tower of PvP.

I would like to point out that PvP materia *could* be a saving grace here. But melding pvp materia on pvp gear wouldn't that be the same as having a morale advantage? Maybe not as an exact thing, but we'll also see a rise of crafted gear with pvp materia in it, and that would become the new "pvp" gear. There was probably alot of thought put into their decision. I still think that it's a poor move and should be re-thought.

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