Thread: 2.3 Frontline What do we know?

Originally Posted by Ragecake

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How do you figure I'm entitled by saying that work should provide a reward? Is it entitled to say that someone who completes their Animus upgrade should have a better weapon than something bought at a vendor? Is it entitled to say that someone who farms tomestones should be able to exchange them for something worth their time? I'm not even arguing from my own situation because I'm Rank 26 and don't have even half of the Direwolf gear. Yet I'm arguing in favor of the people who have the i100 gear because I think that they deserve a return for the investment of their time. That's the plain truth about this: people (including myself) who spent their time preparing for Frontlines in order to have a competitive advantage are getting screwed because the gear is now obsolete. Without the morale stat, all PvP gear is inferior to their PvE counterparts. End of story. If Morale is removed then it must be replaced with something that makes PvP gear competitive again. This is not entitlement. It's common sense that when you're presented with an opportunity to work in a video game, then you should have a reasonable expectation that your work will pay off.

I won't even bother with responding to the rest of your insults.

Originally Posted by Shake0615

That's the plain truth about this: people (not myself) who spent their time preparing for Frontlines in order to have a competitive advantage are getting screwed because their gear is now obsolete.

I understand the need for people to jump into a bg and roflstomp everyone with thier pvp weapons and gears, but the designers clearly didn't want that. They want Frontlines to be accessible to ALL.

ilvl 100 pvp isn't useless. It's currently pretty good for Wolf's Den and glamours and bragging rights.

With R40 and ilvl 100 pvp gear, you aren't preparing Frontlines. You're preparing for the future of pvp in FFXIV ARR.

So hold on your crazy amazing pvp gear. I'm pretty sure there will be more usage for pvp gear in the future.

Please look forward to it!

And yes, you seem to be portraying yourself as entitled. wtf

Originally Posted by Epistane

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*butthurt intensifies*

oooooooook buddy. If you really say so.

Until next time.

Some of you people really don't get it, you think a large scale pvp was ever meant to(or could ever) be more competitive than an arena type setup? This was always going to be accessible for everyone to try and i'm glad they're equalizing gear for it, also if you do pvp just for x gear reward you're doing it wrong.
On another note i have 2 main gripes with this

Originally Posted by Nalien

I mean, obviously it's Maelstrom v Twin Adder v Immortal Flames, but doesn't that royally suck if your friends are in a different Grand Company? I

Yes it does, and while they still haven't confirmed whether or not you will only be able to fight for the gc you're aligned to or if they would make any adjustments to alignment system, either way it just should NOT be restricted they should make you fight for random x team regardless of alignment...
Then there's the issue of there being no class restrictions, i really hope they have something to balance this because i think anyone who pvped a bit knows about how imbalanced classes are, and we might just see same class stacking... really hope not.

Originally Posted by Nalien

EDIT: Apparently Morale has no influence in Frontlines, and the iLv is capped at 80... Now I'm disappointed... I see what he meant by "Frontlines will be a good place for players to practice for real PvP", back when he said that I said I feared he meant Wolves Den is "real" PvP.

*Edit: Nvm, found it*
And yes again, if you were expecting large scale pvp to ever be meant to be more competitive than arena small party death match, i dunno what you were thinking. There's also nothing inherently wrong with Wolves den, it's fun when you have teams who know what they're doing.
There's just a bit of balancing issues,which should be coming or i can't see frontlines as anything more than a big mess, and the fact that most of the population isn't decently geared, which frontlines should help with, would be awesome if they added some ladder competition to it.