2.3 Frontline What do we know?

**Vittorino** · 06-13-2014 03:01 AM

Absolutely agree with your, Morale is non-existent.. there is no point to pvp in any regard if the grind is futile. I'm highly disappointed in their decision; just made an entire pvp community that sort of exists very upset.. while catering to the ilvl 55 casuals who bot in pvp. HERE it comes mass bot farm inc.

Best of luck to you all who will enjoy yourself.

**Epistane** · 06-13-2014 03:09 AM

This, I'm straight up fucking pissed. Wtf were they thinking?!?!

WAIT A SECOND. Does anyone know if PvP gear melds will at least still work in FL?

**Yoohre_WildRiver** · 06-13-2014 03:25 AM

normalizing pvp so pve players have a chance to cap pvp currency, get gear just for glamour and never Set another foot in a frontline ever again... instead of letting pvpers work hard for their gear with stats that helps them daily since they do pvp EVERYDAY. awesome logic SE..

**Kairgon** · 06-13-2014 03:42 AM

I think this is something they wanted to get more people interested in pvp so attract them into frontline eventually they'd get rank up etc then go back wolf den? I mean, we're basically still get same reward but bonus is soldiery tomes as well according to them.

So while watching that frontline, we can pretty sure its' going be capture flag and trying get highest point to win or wait until 30min over to see who highest point to win the match. Apparently there will be monster in battleground as well. July 8th we'll see more info about this as it go live I guess heh.

**Mupod** · 06-13-2014 04:01 AM

Enjoy Wolves' Den while you can, because nobody is going to set foot in there ever again after 2.3. Guess I can save my materia money too.

It would be nice if gear sync was simply an option, and there was another queue with greater rewards and functional PVP gear.

**Shake0615** · 06-13-2014 04:11 AM

It's clear that Yoshida has given up on PvP in this game. There's no purpose in arena with no leaderboard and large-scale PvP that discards the principal PvP stat. Any of the PvE equivalents of Warwolf, Direwolf or the i100 PvP sets will be better because they have 4 functional stats per piece while we only have 3.

**siriussnow** · 06-13-2014 04:18 AM

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...XV-Q-A-Updates

Q5: What kind of rewards can we obtain in Frontline?

A5: Essentially the rewards are the same as the Wolves’ Den, but you’ll also be able to obtain war mounts and Allagan tomestones of soldiery.

if frontline rewards are the same as wolves den then surely morale should count?

**Shake0615** · 06-13-2014 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by siriussnow

if frontline rewards are the same as wolves den then surely morale should count?

One would think. But as others have said, Frontlines has become the CT of PvP - an intermediary step to help bridge the gap between beginners and the endgame content. Unfortunately, that implies that the Wolves' Den is now the end-all-be-all PvP for this game.

**Shake0615** · 06-13-2014 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by tehomegaking

Please stop posting stuff like this. Obviously he cares about PVP.

I didn't say he didn't care but that he seems to have given up. He can care all he wants! But by removing the value of morale and putting PvE gear on par with or better than PvP gear that to me says that he has no faith that Frontlines will be intrinsically fun enough to garner more players' interest in PvP unless he waves the carrot of tomestones, mounts and insultingly low entry requirements in front of people's faces. But one thing he clearly doesn't care about is the existing PvP community's time spent farming or money spent on materia melds.

Edit: I've been a staunch supporter of Yoshida's vision for this game and have been on board with him since the day he was announced as the new producer/director but this is just unconscionable. And the notion that we should continue to excuse poor design and implementation because the game "was rushed" is ludicrous at this point. I gave them a free pass with 1.0 4 years ago and I'm tired of being led on with promises to "please look forward" to something only to have them screw it up like this.

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