Thread: 2.3 Frontline What do we know?

Please, don't compare mmo based in 2 factions like wow, rift, aion, Swotor, wh,...
Gran companies are like 3 reputations because you can join with others gc members in a dungeon.

Whichever way you look at it, it's a punishment against pvp players, more aggravated on legit pvp players. A wintrade will spend 130-200 hours again to use theirs gears and switch to another GC. A legit pvp player, look back and will say "oh no, more grindfest pug lottery, no thanks."

And then, the only choice is wintrade to avoid long queue, and random shits.

FC affiliation does not solve anything (not that there is a problem with FL to begin with)
Take a couple seconds and look at the home wards. Limsa is filled in almost every server. Immortal flames is pretty empty. The odds are stacked. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by Camate

[*]Chat channels
While participating in Frontline, certain chat channels will be restricted.
[list][*]Tell/LS/FC chat channels
It will not be possible to use these chat channels as we would like to prevent players that are in different Grand Company groups from leaking information such as player position, job setup, etc.

I find this to be a bit annoying, especially since frontlines is going to be much longer than the wolves den.
If people really want to cheat in this manner, most FC's have vent/skype/TS/etc to coordinate this info if they so choose, so it is not really going to stop anything if people are that bent on cheating.
I would prefer to talk to my friends in-game while PvPing, since PvP is one of my favourite things, and I would prefer to not be in a voice call with them to talk about other (not cheating) things while doing frontlines.

Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Camate

• Queuing
  As long as you are part of the same Grand Company, you’ll be able to queue up with others.

This pretty much killed all the enthusiasm I had going into frontlines. Our FC is split pretty evenly between the 3 GC's and the idea that I will be unable to queue with 2/3 of my FC without grinding to max faction seems ridiculous. Also, from what I've seen, there seems to be an uneven distribution across the 3 GC's playerbase wide. This means that we will likely see certain GC's getting faster queues than others. The suggestion to use the party leaders GC seems far more reasonable to make this still lore friendly while allowing us to group as we would like.

As previously stated, we were told that GC's would never divide us and that it was purely a personal choice. This goes wholly against that statement.

Originally Posted by Geracia2

FC affiliation does not solve anything (not that there is a problem with FL to begin with)
Take a couple seconds and look at the home wards. Limsa is filled in almost every server. Immortal flames is pretty empty. The odds are stacked. Simple as that.

You don't have to build a house in the Wards that match your FC GC affiliation. My FC is affiliated with the Flames but our home is in Lavender Beds. The housing wards do NOT accurately represent GC affiliation for FCs. If you take a look at XIVSouls you'll see that most servers are actually fairly even in terms of player GC affiliation which is what matters for Frontlines.

Originally Posted by Titor

If people really want to cheat in this manner, most FC's have vent/skype/TS/etc to coordinate this info if they so choose, so it is not really going to stop anything if people are that bent on cheating.

That's the whole point. Restrict the chat and you force people to go out of their way to try and leak info. If you can't eliminate something altogether you limit it to the best of your abilities. If you have a leaky pipe are you going to do nothing and wait for the plumber because you can't fix it or are you going to go shut off the water? No water is inconvenient but at least the floor isn't getting wet.

People just need to deal with it, they ain't going to change it so stop crying. I mean if you're a "legit PVPer" you would just deal with it and you would still PVP anyway. Everyone acts like they didn't see this coming eventually, when this is how it was in ff11, and besides that GC's had no real difference between each other either. Wish people wouldn't use the wintrading or grind fest as an excuse either, since NO ONE knows how much XP you will get from Wins and Loses in Frontlines.

Originally Posted by Lithera

So people are going to feel inclined to leave their FC and seek one that matches their Grand Company.

I doubt it'd go this far as the rewards really are wanted mostly for cosmetic purposes. As promising as it seems, pvp has seen problem after problem and the core, matchmaking, has not been fixed. It's not going to become nearly as popular as main content and thus, when people can't play together like they wish, they'll simply lose interest and focus on what they deem more important.

You don't have to play on the same team as your friends.
You can play against them and have fun still too:
"HA, just dinged you with Fester!"

Just sayin'.