Thread: 2.3 Frontline What do we know?

Originally Posted by Camate

[*]Chat channels
While participating in Frontline, certain chat channels will be restricted.
[list][*]Tell/LS/FC chat channels
It will not be possible to use these chat channels as we would like to prevent players that are in different Grand Company groups from leaking information such as player position, job setup, etc.

I find this to be a bit annoying, especially since frontlines is going to be much longer than the wolves den.
If people really want to cheat in this manner, most FC's have vent/skype/TS/etc to coordinate this info if they so choose, so it is not really going to stop anything if people are that bent on cheating.
I would prefer to talk to my friends in-game while PvPing, since PvP is one of my favourite things, and I would prefer to not be in a voice call with them to talk about other (not cheating) things while doing frontlines.

Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Titor

If people really want to cheat in this manner, most FC's have vent/skype/TS/etc to coordinate this info if they so choose, so it is not really going to stop anything if people are that bent on cheating.

That's the whole point. Restrict the chat and you force people to go out of their way to try and leak info. If you can't eliminate something altogether you limit it to the best of your abilities. If you have a leaky pipe are you going to do nothing and wait for the plumber because you can't fix it or are you going to go shut off the water? No water is inconvenient but at least the floor isn't getting wet.

People just need to deal with it, they ain't going to change it so stop crying. I mean if you're a "legit PVPer" you would just deal with it and you would still PVP anyway. Everyone acts like they didn't see this coming eventually, when this is how it was in ff11, and besides that GC's had no real difference between each other either. Wish people wouldn't use the wintrading or grind fest as an excuse either, since NO ONE knows how much XP you will get from Wins and Loses in Frontlines.

Originally Posted by Camate

• Queuing
  As long as you are part of the same Grand Company, you’ll be able to queue up with others.

This pretty much killed all the enthusiasm I had going into frontlines. Our FC is split pretty evenly between the 3 GC's and the idea that I will be unable to queue with 2/3 of my FC without grinding to max faction seems ridiculous. Also, from what I've seen, there seems to be an uneven distribution across the 3 GC's playerbase wide. This means that we will likely see certain GC's getting faster queues than others. The suggestion to use the party leaders GC seems far more reasonable to make this still lore friendly while allowing us to group as we would like.

As previously stated, we were told that GC's would never divide us and that it was purely a personal choice. This goes wholly against that statement.

How much pvp exp will frontlines award? Will it render wolves den obsolete to level up? I can totally see SE making a joke out of getting the i100 gear now

Wouldn't surprise me on all accounts SE loves to piss off the 1% lol. SE, we warned you multiple times, I hope you listen to your consumers. Make it FC/GC affiliation or Party Lead/Host Affiliation. Your que's will be Dogsh*t; 2 weeks of active play and then it will be dead.. if you can't play with friends the purpose of a large scale PvP is void. 30 to 15 days to switch your GC doesn't fix the issue & never will; just tossing a band-aid on an open wound.

Do what you want, I've stated this numerous times; I'll just be another Game playing their PvP until I see 2.4

Love ya

Originally Posted by Vittorino

Wouldn't surprise me on all accounts SE loves to piss off the 1% lol. SE, we warned you multiple times, I hope you listen to your consumers. Make it FC/GC affiliation or Party Lead/Host Affiliation. Your que's will be Dogsh*t; 2 weeks of active play and then it will be dead.. if you can't play with friends the purpose of a large scale PvP is void. 30 to 15 days to switch your GC doesn't fix the issue & never will; just tossing a band-aid on an open wound.

I think the reason why they're so reluctant to let people switch GC's so freely, is because a GC's performance in FL could lead to other game-altering features. Say, if FLAMES are stomping in FL, any flame member will have a buff or whatever (similar to FC buffs). This way, players can't just bandwagon so freely onto GC's that are performing well.

I'm not saying that THAT'S what's going to happen, but I could see FL outcomes having to do with other game mechanics.

Originally Posted by Vittorino

Wouldn't surprise me on all accounts SE loves to piss off the 1% lol. SE, we warned you multiple times, I hope you listen to your consumers. Make it FC/GC affiliation or Party Lead/Host Affiliation. Your que's will be Dogsh*t; 2 weeks of active play and then it will be dead.. if you can't play with friends the purpose of a large scale PvP is void. 30 to 15 days to switch your GC doesn't fix the issue & never will; just tossing a band-aid on an open wound.

I love how people critique a system they have yet to actually use.

Originally Posted by Vittorino

Wouldn't surprise me on all accounts SE loves to piss off the 1% lol. SE, we warned you multiple times, I hope you listen to your consumers.

Love ya

Where are people getting this magic power to threaten a multinational media conglomerate?
From their ~10$ a month sub? That's 30 minutes of wages.
Seems futile, hostile, agitated...etc.

I get the frustration, but let's be real, here. SE has their highly trained analysts and product specialists. They've already weighed their decision to limit participation by this category, and the pros apparently outweigh the cons to doing so. I'll keep mum and enjoy it as I can with other Twin Adders, waiting for whatever they ultimately decide. But threatening just puts a easily dismissed tone to an otherwise viable opinion.