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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    Oh and btw, I'll be waiting for that ToS quote.
    I love how people fall back to the "it's not in the ToS" argument. It's not in the ToS no, but to expect other players to actually play the game when they are in a group with other people isn't absurd. It can be considered trolling, and it can be considered a form of harassment. It isn't black and white, and it doesn't have to be in the ToS to be considered poor behavior deemed unacceptable by the community. You're just relying on the ToS as some sort of excuse to justify terrible behavior. There are many things in the world that aren't illegal by the letter of the law, but are still taboo, immoral, and ethically terrible. By your rules those people are A-OK simply because they aren't against the letter of the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
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    Not sure if you are directing this at me, or quoting me and building upon it.

    I used the ToS argument because that's what every healer in this thread has said. "It's not in the ToS for me to DPS as a healer" No, I'm sure it's not. AFKing while doing a dungeon, regardless of how menial someone thinks it is, is unethical and would probably be frowned upon by anyone it is happening to. But since "it isn't in the ToS", they feel that their actions are justified.

    So I flipped the script. Show me where it says I need to use Heavy Shot even once in the ToS when I play Bard. Technically, my auto-attack is producing numbers calculated as damage, so in their logic I am doing my job and shouldn't be tagged for griefing anyone. They say "players aren't dying, things are being healed, what's the problem?" I say "mobs are dying, progress is being made, who tf cares if you think it isn't going fast enough?"

    Personally, if a healer got into my party who was just /follow + fairy heal, I would wait until the end of the dungeon....and I mean the gate right before the last boss and initiate vote kick. Luckily, I don't need the ToS to tell me a healer is doing his/her job by AFKing and healing, I only need one other person to agree with me that healer is being unethical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    Not sure if you are directing this at me, or quoting me and building upon it.
    Was more building tbh. I see people say this a lot and it's just funny to me that they think it means anything.
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