Please disable "Follow" inside duties.

[Virgil]

So, selfish then. At least you're honest about it.

There's nothing selfish about it. I'm doing my job. DPSing as a healer is going the extra mile for your party, whether you think they should or not. It just so happens that Eos and Selene are capable of handling all the healing under certain circumstances and I'm going to take advantage of that how I see fit. If I feel like popping cleric stance and spamming ruin to help dps a little, cool. If I feel like watching youtube in the middle of fights because Eos happens to be more healing than the party needs then I'm going to do that.

I'm sorry that you're offended because you're too "principled" to slack in a harmless fashion.

[Ooshima]

Do you really believe SE intended for a single class to afk follow an entire instance?

As you said it is fundamentally a design flaw from SE. Why blame the SCH for able to afk'n due to this thou? It's not like the SCH's fault. As long as no one dies he has done his job.

While WHM can't fully AFK, WHMs can semi-afk without DPSing even on fights like Stone Vigil. Been there done that while chatting with team mates or half falling asleep.

[Elim]

Exactly. Like what I said earlier, healer's job icon is green. It's design to HEAL. Anything else is a bonus and people should learn to appreciate it instead if that stupid entitled attitude.

Exactly. Anything a healer does beyond healing in a PuG is a bonus to the team. Kicking a healer for not DPSing(in DF) is an abuse of the system. And just because a healer is only healing with Eos doesn't mean he's AFK. So kicking him without confirming he's AFK could be an abuse of the system. as well.

Don't get me wrong, I DPS in low level dungeons as a healer. Not because the rest of my team is entitled to it, only because I want it to go quicker.

[Mandudez]

Exactly. Like what I said earlier, healer's job icon is green. It's design to HEAL. Anything else is a bonus and people should learn to appreciate it instead if that stupid entitled attitude.

As a tank I NEVER stop using skills while fighting mobs. Is it really too much to expect the same from the rest of my party?

[Ooshima]

As a tank I NEVER stop using skills while fighting mobs. Is it really too much to expect the same from the rest of my party?

You had the answer yourself. The word you used is expect. That is your expectation.


What I want to establish is that given that it is a design flaw from SE to allow EoS to enter under lvl 30 dungeons and thus allowing a lvl synced SCH to pet heal only, a SCH who does so is playing within the rules of the system. So does a WHM who just heals only and doesn't deal any DPS. It is allowed. Their job is healer, their icon is green, and thus the only job they had to do is heal. They will only get punished by GMs for refusing to heal, not refusing to DPS or do anything else. Period. This is a fact, not anyone's opinion.

People needs to get this clear in their mind.

I have never said or encouraged that everyone needs to play this way. There are many healers who would go the extra mile to deal some DPS to speed up the dungeon. This is their choice and they have to full rights to choose whether they want to or not. You don't force your values, opinions nor expectations on them in a PuG. If you have a strict expectation or code of conduct, play with your friends/LS/FC.

When you enter a PuG, you should enter with a mindset that only the minimum applies. You don't expect T8/T9 clear grade players to always appear in DF, nor you expect a one shot clear. Expecting all these things only set you into unnecessary unhappiness when you don't get them. When I do mythflox I can do it 5mins and under easy - is it really too much to expect it from my party when I go DF? You see what I mean?

Know what is really allowed by system and what is not - not your own views an opinion. In that way you are able to clearly differentiate which players are good, which players goes the extra mile and be appreciative of them.

This community needs more of this instead of thinking that almost everything done good should be a given.

[Virgil]

It has nothing to do with DPS but the fact you're basically a bot at that point. Do you really believe SE intended for a single class to afk follow an entire instance? It's obviously an oversight because even a WHM has to be at the keyboard to cure, esuna, regen, whatever but a SCH (or SUM for that matter) doesn't have to lift a finger, yet complete the instance unscathed? I don't agree with OP's suggestion to remove follow but I do believe the fairies heal potency should get chunked significantly more when level synced, she shouldn't be able to solo heal low lvl content to the extent she does now.



Might be petty, but I'd probably commend him. :^)

Would you commend me for wiping my party because the DRG doesn't do his rotations perfectly even though he knows how, even if he's still easily killing mobs; disrupting 2 others who may have nothing to do with it?

And you guys call me a terrible person?

[AdamFyi]

I'm surprised that the topic had been derailed and misinterpreted very badly. First and foremost, this topic is about the follow feature being used in low levelled dungeons as a means to AFK to get the full reward with minimal effort - and not the fact that the healer does not want to dps.

I can understand the stance that those low levelled dungeons are boring as heck, but even so, I try to at least contribute some effort to make the run go faster, sometimes have a nice chat with the other players (which is pretty nice when they respond, imo). Not that I support healers having the requirement to dps, because even I don't dps from time to time. Lul.

I just don't support the fact that you can just set it to follow and do nothing while your pet heals. Some interaction or acknowledgement that you are there would be nice (even some movement to show you're at the keyboard/controler is good enough!) - rather than just watching you do absolutely nothing but auto-follow.

[Grembo]

Gonna try the same thing by clicking follow on the healer and having my flash key stuck down with blu tack.

If it's ok for some, right?

[Ooshima]

Gonna try the same thing by clicking follow on the healer and having my flash key stuck down with blu tack.

If it's ok for some, right?

If your MP doesn't run out, by all means go ahead.

[Kerowyn]

Huh, I assumed it couldn't. :O Should try to see what Eos is really capable of. ^.^

Yeah Eos is a kick ass little healer and if you're in a good group where the DDs aren't pulling agro from the tank and avoiding most AoEs you can get by with jut the fairy heals and the occasional Leeches. Just remember to use the Fairys Abilities manually. Put her on Obey and use the healing boost and AoE Heal smartly along with the Defense Buff and the one ability not on the Fairy's Action bar the increases healing and prevents her from being stunned. I've run some pretty good dungeons with FC Mates where I was in Cleric Stance DD 98% of the runs.