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  1. #71
    Player Virgil's Avatar
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    Virgil Cesius
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuka View Post
    Yeah for you, not for the other three people that have to slag through a longer boring run while you leech off their work so you can Alt-tab and do stuff that I'm sure they wish to do too. I'm honestly surprised so many people actually support this, if you actually do this you're no different than low-lvl an pvp bots imo and I would vote kick you without question. Fortunately I main healer so I've never had the luxury of dealing with a SCH follow bot, but if they're anything like bard/ tank bots I've had to deal with I can understand why OP is annoyed.
    If I can be lazy and do nothing while still being able to do my job 100% (healing) then you can bet your ass that I'll do just that.

    I'm guilty of doing lower level dungeons on sch and letting Eos and Selene do all the work. I don't regret it.
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  2. #72
    Player Virgil's Avatar
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    Virgil Cesius
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    I start pulling everything in the dungeon when that happens then blame the healer for not healing me if we wipe and its not like they can say anything since they weren't healing me. Eos is only 1/2 of your healing as SCH so if only your pet is healing me and you are only doing half your work and in a team environment that's just not gonna cut it.
    It's will most definitely be your fault if you pull everything and die; lazy SCH or not. And the fact that you'd be willing sacrifice your party because your healer isn't DPSing just makes you seem petty.
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  3. #73
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    sarehptar's Avatar
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    Yehn'zi Panipahr
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    What kind of amazing low level duty roulette groups are you people getting that you can just kick back and let Eos heal through every single thing? Maybe if you and everyone else in the group is overgeared... I can't be the only healer who ends up with ilvl 25 tanks in Stone Vigil and DPS who eat AoEs like candy... Eos is great, but she can only do so much when faced with stuff like that.

    I kind of feel like I should apologize for all the lazy healers present in this thread... I'm a scholar who DPSes! We don't all go AFK!
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  4. #74
    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    tbh tho, most of the time the scrublets trying to piss on a healer for not dps'ing are usually the same scrublets that stand in every AOE despite the big flashing red line that screams "OMFG DONT STAND HERE NOOB" then complain when i was dps'ing and not healing their badness
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  5. #75
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    FFXIV player mentality in a nutshell.
    Well, I guess it's not our first day here, sadly.
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  6. #76
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    ispano's Avatar
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    If I can be lazy and do nothing while still being able to do my job 100% (healing) then you can bet your ass that I'll do just that.

    I'm guilty of doing lower level dungeons on sch and letting Eos and Selene do all the work. I don't regret it.
    So, selfish then. At least you're honest about it.
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  7. #77
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    hours's Avatar
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    Mint Chocolate
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    If you expect me to go all out and carry you with both heals and DPS for the sake of "efficiency", you'd better unequip your job crystals and put in cure, physick, stoneskin, provoke, etc as your cross class skills too.
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  8. #78
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by hours View Post
    If you expect me to go all out and carry you with both heals and DPS for the sake of "efficiency", you'd better unequip your job crystals and put in cure, physick, stoneskin, provoke, etc as your cross class skills too.
    Exactly. Like what I said earlier, healer's job icon is green. It's design to HEAL. Anything else is a bonus and people should learn to appreciate it instead if that stupid entitled attitude.

    If that green icon needs to something out of it's designed routine, then all the rest better put in something extra too. For the sake of efficiency right? Tanks please off your tank stance and deal more DPS please. DPS please self heal from time to time, don't waste your MP so your green icon team mate can continue to DPS and heal the blue icon not on tank stance a little more.

    Don't say it's not do-able thou. Defiance is not really needed outside coil. My WAR is i84 cos I am using i70 DPS accessories. Holding single target and AoE hate easily. There are a few times I've tanked dungeons like Haukke Manor HM with a Sword Oath PLD till the last boss before realizing that I wasn't on Shield Oath, I told the team and every one was lol'n cos no one noticed a difference.
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    Last edited by Ooshima; 06-10-2014 at 11:11 AM.

  9. #79
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    Manuka's Avatar
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    Enk'i Faer
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    It has nothing to do with DPS but the fact you're basically a bot at that point. Do you really believe SE intended for a single class to afk follow an entire instance? It's obviously an oversight because even a WHM has to be at the keyboard to cure, esuna, regen, whatever but a SCH (or SUM for that matter) doesn't have to lift a finger, yet complete the instance unscathed? I don't agree with OP's suggestion to remove follow but I do believe the fairies heal potency should get chunked significantly more when level synced, she shouldn't be able to solo heal low lvl content to the extent she does now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    It's will most definitely be your fault if you pull everything and die; lazy SCH or not. And the fact that you'd be willing sacrifice your party because your healer isn't DPSing just makes you seem petty.
    Might be petty, but I'd probably commend him. :^)
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  10. #80
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    Mandudez's Avatar
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    Man Dudez
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.
    Again, this is completely unfair to the rest of the party. Can the tank do something else IRL? NO Can the dps do something else IRL? NO The faster they get the dungeon done the sooner they can focus 100% on that IRL crap btw...logic escapes you.
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