Please disable "Follow" inside duties.

[Mandudez]

While I always DPS in low level dungeons I have no issue with healers that only heal or tanks that only tank. Yes, it would be more optimal if both tank and healer dished out some damage to speed things up when they have their main priorities under control, but it's not strictly required.

I just think that it is unfair to expect some members in the party to be active and participating in the dungeon the entire time while others get to lounge back and take it easy. That is just being horribly lazy and a waste of everyone's time. If everyone played their roles minimally then you'd see dungeons taking 2-3x longer than normal to complete for no reason other than sheer laziness.

[Mandudez]

Yeah firstworldproblems indeed.

When a healer starts to go Cleric Stance and deal some damage, people take it as a given.

No wonder some people forgot to be appreciative. A healer that just heals and ensure that no one dies in a party is doing his/her job. A healer that deals damage on top of that is going the for the extra mile and I'd be appreciative of that but I never ask of them. But when they do, and do a good job, I give them commendations. I think there are a lot of people do understand this too - I receive 2-4 commendations as a DPSing WHM depending on party size. But it is getting disgusting that people start to expect everything that was supposed to be an extra as a given.. pfftch.

Everything pre-50 is a joke to heal. Even some of the 50 stuff is rather easy now. To prove this point I never unlocked WHM and not a single person died when leveling to 50.

[Nukocafe]

Did that on copperbell in the "3 dungeons only" era of DR low level. I pulled all mobs (including the extras) from 1st lift to 1st boss because the healer said he was bored.

If I ever understand one day how we survived back then, I'll probably say "holy shit that was epic !!". xD

See! A great solution to this whole thread's problem!

[Foo01]

... Why should anyone be able to use follow and go afk and still get credit? ...

Why do you care how others get credit? How do you know they are AFK? And if they are and everyone still cleared the dungeon without wipes is it do bad? You rather be stuck waiting for the queue to pop? What is the average wait time for DPS anyways? Would you rather the healer just quit like some tanks when they get Tamtara for the nth time and they are bored of it?

Undoubted it would be better if the healer actually did more than just have a fairy around, but why is it people are always so interested in telling other people how to play, even when things are working?

[Tiggy]

even when things are working?

If this was true then this thread wouldn't exist.

Things aren't working. You're just trying to convince everyone they are. If /follow makes it easier for people to AFK in dungeons then it is abusable and it is a problem. Not everything comes down to telling people how to play, and I don't know how you can consider it "playing" when this thread was started about people AFKing in dungeons. Last I checked and AFK player ISN'T playing at all.

In your zeal to "not tell people how to play" you're kind of ignoring the entire point of the post.

[Foo01]

... In your zeal to "not tell people how to play" you're kind of ignoring the entire point of the post.

If I am the tank, and I also have an SCH on another account, and put the SCH on follow and I play the tank, is that so wrong? The tank now has healing capability too and a fairy attached. Can't people with two account do that? I am not missing the point of the post.

[Kuroyasha]

I just think that it is unfair to expect some members in the party to be active and participating in the dungeon the entire time while others get to lounge back and take it easy. That is just being horribly lazy and a waste of everyone's time. If everyone played their roles minimally then you'd see dungeons taking 2-3x longer than normal to complete for no reason other than sheer laziness.

If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.

[ispano]

If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.

Man people who think like this would be lost in a game that had proper Clerics.

[Manuka]

That's efficient and effective.

Yeah for you, not for the other three people that have to slag through a longer boring run while you leech off their work so you can Alt-tab and do stuff that I'm sure they wish to do too. I'm honestly surprised so many people actually support this, if you actually do this you're no different than low-lvl an pvp bots imo and I would vote kick you without question. Fortunately I main healer so I've never had the luxury of dealing with a SCH follow bot, but if they're anything like bard/ tank bots I've had to deal with I can understand why OP is annoyed.

[Marxam]

I start pulling everything in the dungeon when that happens then blame the healer for not healing me if we wipe and its not like they can say anything since they weren't healing me. Eos is only 1/2 of your healing as SCH so if only your pet is healing me and you are only doing half your work and in a team environment that's just not gonna cut it.