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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    i don't see the problem sch only needs eos to do all the work you didn't die what's the problem? the sch didn't dps? ha good one.
    Holy crap FIFTEEN people gave this comment a like? Remind me the next time that I tank a duty with you to just spam flash on every pull and nothing else. With your logic my job as a tank is to not DPS either. Then wait one minute in between pulls to regain MP so I can only flash spam on the next pull too. I won't lose hate so what's the problem?

    This game going to die before it even hits the first expansion if players that agree with that mentality continue spreading their lazy ways around this community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    Holy crap FIFTEEN people gave this comment a like? Remind me the next time that I tank a duty with you to just spam flash on every pull and nothing else. With your logic my job as a tank is to not DPS either. Then wait one minute in between pulls to regain MP so I can only flash spam on the next pull too. I won't lose hate so what's the problem?

    This game going to die before it even hits the first expansion if players that agree with that mentality continue spreading their lazy ways around this community.
    While I always DPS in low level dungeons I have no issue with healers that only heal or tanks that only tank. Yes, it would be more optimal if both tank and healer dished out some damage to speed things up when they have their main priorities under control, but it's not strictly required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    While I always DPS in low level dungeons I have no issue with healers that only heal or tanks that only tank. Yes, it would be more optimal if both tank and healer dished out some damage to speed things up when they have their main priorities under control, but it's not strictly required.
    I just think that it is unfair to expect some members in the party to be active and participating in the dungeon the entire time while others get to lounge back and take it easy. That is just being horribly lazy and a waste of everyone's time. If everyone played their roles minimally then you'd see dungeons taking 2-3x longer than normal to complete for no reason other than sheer laziness.
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    I just think that it is unfair to expect some members in the party to be active and participating in the dungeon the entire time while others get to lounge back and take it easy. That is just being horribly lazy and a waste of everyone's time. If everyone played their roles minimally then you'd see dungeons taking 2-3x longer than normal to complete for no reason other than sheer laziness.
    If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.
    Man people who think like this would be lost in a game that had proper Clerics.
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    Enk'i Faer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    That's efficient and effective.
    Yeah for you, not for the other three people that have to slag through a longer boring run while you leech off their work so you can Alt-tab and do stuff that I'm sure they wish to do too. I'm honestly surprised so many people actually support this, if you actually do this you're no different than low-lvl an pvp bots imo and I would vote kick you without question. Fortunately I main healer so I've never had the luxury of dealing with a SCH follow bot, but if they're anything like bard/ tank bots I've had to deal with I can understand why OP is annoyed.
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    Player Virgil's Avatar
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    Virgil Cesius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuka View Post
    Yeah for you, not for the other three people that have to slag through a longer boring run while you leech off their work so you can Alt-tab and do stuff that I'm sure they wish to do too. I'm honestly surprised so many people actually support this, if you actually do this you're no different than low-lvl an pvp bots imo and I would vote kick you without question. Fortunately I main healer so I've never had the luxury of dealing with a SCH follow bot, but if they're anything like bard/ tank bots I've had to deal with I can understand why OP is annoyed.
    If I can be lazy and do nothing while still being able to do my job 100% (healing) then you can bet your ass that I'll do just that.

    I'm guilty of doing lower level dungeons on sch and letting Eos and Selene do all the work. I don't regret it.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    If I can be lazy and do nothing while still being able to do my job 100% (healing) then you can bet your ass that I'll do just that.

    I'm guilty of doing lower level dungeons on sch and letting Eos and Selene do all the work. I don't regret it.
    So, selfish then. At least you're honest about it.
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    Enk'i Faer
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    It has nothing to do with DPS but the fact you're basically a bot at that point. Do you really believe SE intended for a single class to afk follow an entire instance? It's obviously an oversight because even a WHM has to be at the keyboard to cure, esuna, regen, whatever but a SCH (or SUM for that matter) doesn't have to lift a finger, yet complete the instance unscathed? I don't agree with OP's suggestion to remove follow but I do believe the fairies heal potency should get chunked significantly more when level synced, she shouldn't be able to solo heal low lvl content to the extent she does now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    It's will most definitely be your fault if you pull everything and die; lazy SCH or not. And the fact that you'd be willing sacrifice your party because your healer isn't DPSing just makes you seem petty.
    Might be petty, but I'd probably commend him. :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.
    Again, this is completely unfair to the rest of the party. Can the tank do something else IRL? NO Can the dps do something else IRL? NO The faster they get the dungeon done the sooner they can focus 100% on that IRL crap btw...logic escapes you.
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