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    Gesser's Avatar
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    [Opinion] Myth Expenditures are Absurd

    Atma... I'm fine with, I made my piece with the RNG gods with regard to Atma.

    Animus... I like the measurable progress, I'm okay with the method, I've had a really hard time with the sheer Myth cost & the fact you couldn't collect the books in advance of obtaining all 12 Atma's (I was forced to blow about 900 Myth whilst still getting Atma's to avoid cap).

    Novus... I feel the Sphere Scroll cost alone feels like a low-blow in lieu of Atma/Animus grinds (even if it is only a one-time fee). I am happy they've added alternative methods of obtaining Alexanderites but 75 materia to go with them, all the way up to grade IV's with a chance for failure feels to me, entirely excessive.

    Star-3 Mat's... cost Myth, sure we can buy them at the MB but they're costing some ignorant person their Myth or hindering progress for another. It's fine that they do, I just feel there already needed to be another method of obtaining them (I feel like I'm cheating people from their Relic quest-line when I ask to buy the materials off them for gil, just my own personal issue... but still, it feels crappy).

    My biggest gripe isn't with the time-investment or the grind, it's with the sheer Myth requirement in lieu of all else that's required. And even though Myth isn't a requirement for Alexanderite, just having it as an uncapped option feels off... if I wanna bolster my progress toward Novus, I'm hindering my potential progress on a 2nd Animus or vice versa... that's just one scenario.

    There are a number of revisions to the process I think SE should consider, surely these form my own ideas/opinions & are not perfect... so any input is appreciated, positive or negative.

    Here they are...

    Reduce Animus Book cost to 1,200 Myth.

    Reduce Animus FATE Respawns to 2-3 hours maximum.

    Add alternative purchasing for Animus books (e.g. 300 Soldiery).

    Add alternative purchasing for Alexanderite (e.g. 200 Soldiery & 25k Seals).

    Add alternative purchasing for Star-3 Mat's (e.g. 125 Soldiery & 15k Seals).

    Adjust i70 Dungeon drops from 25>25>0 Myth to 15>15>30 Myth to encourage 'full-running'.

    Adjust Daily Roulette: Guildhest (lvl. 50) from 0 Myth to 20 Myth.

    Adjust Timeworn Maps from 3-9 Myth (Boarskin) & 5-15 Myth (Peisteskin) to 5-15 & 20-30, respectively.

    Redesign Transmutation to "trade 3 for a guaranteed, random tier upgrade".

    Remove chance of failure from Novus infusion (if there's even a chance to fail on the grade IV's...).

    (to be continued)
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    Last edited by Gesser; 06-09-2014 at 11:22 AM.

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    This will not happen. This is the price you play for unlimited currency. The price is set so high, that the time offset is identical to a limited currency. Look at GC seals and gil. Housing prices and keeper's hymn scrolls where set at high prices because with enough time, you can get an infinite amount. The only thing they will do is make an option to use time limited currency and measures (e.g. limited tomes, hunts (which are basically leve quests), etc). Reason? Because unfortunately your fellow players have caused a situation where speedrunning is the norm and this is the response to the effort to make a shortcut.
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    I actually like that it takes time I don't want to finish it in a month and then that's it. I like it the way it is.
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    The one thing that I'd like to see is not in your list.

    Make it possible to purchase materia with GC seals.
    Require GC rank x for materia rank y, and scale cost accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    I personally have known a couple friends who died this way
    lolwat.... SE killed your friends...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    lolwat.... SE killed your friends...?
    Haha so funny I've had close, personal friends with addictive personalities die to extreme grind designs.

    Hilarious. Even when the context is ignored!
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    Last edited by Gesser; 06-09-2014 at 06:29 AM.

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    Ayden Ka
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    Ok, sure, this currency is unlimited (except for the 2k cap), sure, go ahead and get it all, but where? IN THE SAME GODDAMN PLACE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING IT FOR MONTHS!
    The real problem here isn't the price itself, it's the fact that, in order to do it as fast as possible, there's only one place we can grind Myth at, and it's boring as hell.

    INB4 "Well you can do your roulettes every day and be done in 3 months!"
    Yes, i can do my roulettes and have to deal with DF random player selection so that in 3 months i'll have some progress to be proud of... No thanks...

    But i'm also not doing Brayflox 2 boss speedruns (INB4 "You just want everything handed to you!"), why? Because i'm not doing the same piece of content over and over to the point of not wanting to see the FFXIV icon in my start menu. If i have to do a piece of content so much that it takes the fun out of playing the game, it's not worth it.

    So then they go and make the Novus quest... What do we have to do to get our Novus? SAME SHIT ALL OVER AGAIN!

    TL;DR: Screw FATE grinding, screw Myth grinding, i'll just wait till they nerf it to the ground.
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    Blake Amariah
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    If people are dying at their computers over long-term grind designs... I'd have to call into question their intellect, or just flat-out call shenanigans lol it's not that serious. As uberhaxed pointed out, you have to think about the game's economy. Because these tomes are basically a major grind fest (i.e. unlimited in the number of times they can be farmed), your prices are going to be high.

    Supply and demand my friend; though, I do agree that speed-running becoming mainstream has a large part to do with it. Devs are now facing a monster where they have to make content last long enough to tide over until further patches are released. People can arm-chair philosophy all they want, but this is Yoshi's world lol we just play in it.
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    I like the idea of being able to use Soldiery Tomes to buy Alexandrite, constantly running Brayflox in-between Raids is a serious downer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    personal friends with addictive personalities die to extreme grind designs.
    I'm sorry... D:
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